I have mostly been training on my own lately. But I saw this guy that looked like a whack job on the bags next to me yesterday. I was 70min into a 90min session and he came up to me to start talking. I was pretty dead so I resort to a lot of close hooks at that point. He tried to correct me on my footwork when I was throwing a certain type of hook. It was a very basic comment and I kind of just dismissed it as it was obvious if I planted and pivoted my back foot more I would get more power. But, anyway he kept talking and said I should ‘come by his dojo’ and do some striking training. He said he was assembling a ‘fight team’ and I was just laughing at this point - I didn’t know this guy and didn’t know his dojo. I kept laughing and he was like yeah I’m a co-founder. He said they have a black belt Gracie guy here too - I knew the Gracie dude he was talking about, so I started to listen a little bit more. So he wants me to train at his dojo as a ‘member’. I’m a bit skeptical of this. I really don’t want a coach to correct my unorthodox methods if they are effective. I think I got under his skin enough to challenge him to a fight, but I checked his stats today and he is pretty lethal on the ground. He said he did Jiu-Jitsu but didn’t say he had a bunch of national titles lol. I would secretly like to roll on the mats with this guy to see how good his takedowns are to see if I have a chance before saying anything. He is the first person who I think I could push into a matchup. I usually don’t see many people in my weight class. I think I could take him out with a KO against his crappy standup but if we got to the ground I would be in trouble. The fight promoter definitely wouldn’t match us up but its fighters choice - you know?
^What’s the harm in stopping by and checking it out? Watch the other guys (imo your training partners are more important than the actual coach) and roll at the end. If this gym has any credibility at all you will certainly not spar the first day there (well >50%) and will most certainly not spar hard with a head coach.
As for your effective but unorthodox methods, most good coachs will tailor moves and work with your methods, assuming they are in fact effective and efficient.
What’s your weight class? Where do you train?
185lbs. Currently walking around at 215. In the southeast. Its not like i’m training for a fight at this point, but if I could line one up or someone offered a fight, I wouldn’t turn it down.
^You check it out?
Main reason for posting in this thread: not a comment on the fights from Sat? No one is in shock? All three of my picks were defeated so i was a little taken back.
Awesome card. Dumb moves by Weidman and Aldo. Romero was a beast (but if it had been a 5 rounder, he would have gotten cooked, since he was gassing bad. And I can’t believe Jacare came back from that beating in the 1st). Also, Maia’s total domination of an extremely good grappler was amazing.
I have always wanted to start MMA, I just find grappling so boring, tried it out a few times and was just bored, I am more of a standing fighter and obviously I know if I get taken to the floor I would be screwed. I competed in kickboxing from a young age, 6 national medals and one international, a guy I trained with is getting pretty famous now in MMA you should check him out “Michael Page”.
This dude teaches at a club round the corner from my house.
Really cool and humble guy (Not so humble when it comes to fighting).
So what did you think of the big fights?
I have to admit that I was caught up in the Conor McGregor hype. I’ve not watched UFC for years but ended up watching this one, probably a fair % of the audience was the same.
I thought Conor took the 1st round but Diaz didn’t really seem shaken at all by his hits, I was probably swayed a bit by the amount of blood. Same can’t be said for Conor in the 2nd though and it was all downhill as soon as he took that big left hand. It seems crazy that McGregor took him to ground when he must have known that he’d lose within seconds due to Diaz’ BJJ skills. Maybe he was starting to believe he was super human. He sure did tap out quickly though, to be fair that’s probably the sensible approach if you know the guys got you in a choke and there’s no way out. looked pretty bad though.
From what I’ve read and from my limited knowledge of the sport, the media are being quite kind to McGregor. Probably because it makes sense to keep the hype machine going.
I wonder where he’ll go from here, I can’t see him fighting dos anjos any time soon as 2 defeats in quick succession would really de rail him, dos anjos wiped the floor with Nate Diaz at lightweight so that doesn’t bode well. A rematch with Aldo would make sense but his name’s in the dirt for refusing this fight after saying he’d fight him any time anywhere. A lot of people seem to think Frankie Edgar would beat McGregor so it’ll be interesting to see what happens next
^McGregor is a talented fighter, no doubt about it, and an even more gifted self-promotor. With that said, Dana White and team really helped create the monster we see before us today. He jumped ahead of a lot of guys to get the title fight, and wad fortunate enough to avoid those who would give him a tough time (Edgar as an example). RDA would absolultey destroy McGregor, no doubt about it. I’m more excited for the Jon Jones comeback, I’ve been watching him train all this year and saw him put on a lot of weight - strength.
UFC 200 should be epic. I think JJ will fight, Weidman is going to re-match with Luke (I personally would like to see a Jon Jones Rockhold fight), and perhaps a mcgregor aldo rematch.
On a side note, my buddy was having a rough night that night and was standing right by this table of drunk southie boys. Right as the second round was coming to an end, he was open hand slapped (no joke) and being the boxer he is, he immediately retaliated which, by default, meant all my friends hand to jump in and defend against their friends. Fortunately my buddies all train in combat sports and are fairly humble guys so we didnt have to fight and i dont think their guys wanted to throw down either. Nevertheless, i doubt any of us will be let into that bar again given the damage that ensued.
so he just slapped him out of the blue or were there words before it? I’ve never watched MMA in a pub but I imagine the atmosphere can get quite tense. I’m used to watching boxing but UFC is definitely a couple of notches up in violence.
any tips for a combat sport beginner? I’m tempted to start boxing and maybe BJJ. I don’t know if it’s living in NYC or the increased strength training I’ve been doing the last year or so but I feel like I need an outlet. Do I just rock up at a beginners class at a gym and get stuck into it?
He stepped on my friends shoes so my friend “lightly” pushed back and asked him to relax.
My coach - and most of my old teammates train at Mendez Boxing for their mma. Although most train to fight, it is a great group of people. His name is John (Benson) Salgado. Couldn’t have more respect for him.
Renzo’s is a great place but you may be better off starting some where with less people to get personalized coaching (BJJ)
If you are looking for MT, i used to train at 5points and evolution MMA.
thanks mate. I’ll start small to begin with I think, maybe stick with the boxing.
I read today that Nate Diaz is a vegan, crazy.
I thought the McGreggor/Diaz fight was excellent. I always forget that Nate is a “bleeder” due to all the scar tissue he’s built up. So he often looks like he’s in a worse spot than he is.
When McGreggor went for the takedown, I wonder whether it was a desparation one intended to gve him time to recover. He’s usually one of the bigger guys in his normal weighclass, so he can get away with those kinds of things. But Diaz is not only a lot bigger (he probably walks around at 180 or so), he’s got some of the best jits in the game.
It’ll be interesting to see how McGreggor responds to the loss - he’s got a pretty well-rehearsed schtick, but it might be harder to sell after he got lit up and subbed.
He won round one pretty handily, just gassed out in round 2, probably shouldn’t have been swinging those hard shots so much and paced himself better.
who was that freak interviewing Mcgregor after the defeat?
So McGregor v Diaz confirmed for UFC 200
Interesting comments from Dana White about how they tried to convince McGregor to fight Diaz at a lower weight but he insisted on a rematch at the same weight. Probably so he can blame it on the weight if he loses, fight the winner of Aldo v Edgar and if he wins that look at rebooking the Dos Anjos fight at Lightweight.
Or McGregor just really doesn’t want to do the cut which I get, cutting sucks.
I hope McGregor loses again.
thinking of joining American top team - training with them this week