I still think Black Swan was right. But, with that being said the squeaky wheel gets the oil. The guy bitched and moaned most likely to get paid. It’s like the lady who burned herself with the McDinalds coffee and got millions.
You gotta declare victory, haha, this is AF. I still believe my central thesis, but such is life.
Yeah we have all heard about the old lady in the McDonalds lawsuit. Its used as a bullshit poster for frivolous lawsuits by ignorant people who don’t know the facts of the case. the old lady only wanted her hospital bill paid, McD’s was clearly in the wrong and didn’t want to pay them. They rightfully had the book thrown at them.
What?
Why should McD even pay for anything? If you buy thumbtacks and step on one on the floor, is company liable for that as well?
Yeah, WTF. I legally bought a gun and shot myself, how much does Smith & Wesson owe me?
What fact am I missing here about the McDonald’s case. The lady burnt herself with hot coffee and filed suit because it didn’t say hot. How dumb is that sh*t?
McFact No. 1: For years, McDonald’s had known they had a problem with the way they make their coffee - that their coffee was served much hotter (at least 20 degrees more so) than at other restaurants. McFact No. 2: McDonald’s knew its coffee sometimes caused serious injuries - more than 700 incidents of scalding coffee burns in the past decade have been settled by the Corporation - and yet they never so much as consulted a burn expert regarding the issue. McFact No. 3: The woman involved in this infamous case suffered very serious injuries - third degree burns on her groin, thighs and buttocks that required skin grafts and a seven-day hospital stay. McFact No. 4: The woman, an 81-year old former department store clerk who had never before filed suit against anyone, said she wouldn’t have brought the lawsuit against McDonald’s had the Corporation not dismissed her request for compensation for medical bills. McFact No. 5: A McDonald’s quality assurance manager testified in the case that the Corporation was aware of the risk of serving dangerously hot coffee and had no plans to either turn down the heat or to post warning about the possibility of severe burns, even though most customers wouldn’t think it was possible. McFact No. 6: After careful deliberation, the jury found McDonald’s was liable because the facts were overwhelmingly against the company. When it came to the punitive damages, the jury found that McDonald’s had engaged in willful, reckless, malicious, or wanton conduct, and rendered a punitive damage award of 2.7 million dollars. (The equivalent of just two days of coffee sales, McDonalds Corporation generates revenues in excess of 1.3 million dollars daily from the sale of its coffee, selling 1 billion cups each year.) McFact No. 7: On appeal, a judge lowered the award to $480,000, a fact not widely publicized in the media. McFact No. 8: A report in Liability Week, September 29, 1997, indicated that Kathleen Gilliam, 73, suffered first degree burns when a cup of coffee spilled onto her lap. Reports also indicate that McDonald’s consistently keeps its coffee at 185 degrees, still approximately 20 degrees hotter than at other restaurants. Third degree burns occur at this temperature in just two to seven seconds, requiring skin grafting, debridement and whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and disability to the victims for many months, and in some cases, years.
LOL what a comparison. The negligence of burning your genitals off with a little spilled coffee that was heated to egregious levels is exactly the same as shooting yourself with a firearm. Bravo BS.
Nearly everybody agrees 190 degrees is the proper temperature to brew and serve coffee although some will wait to let it cool to 170. So her getting coffee at 190 degrees would be akin to grabbing a coffee straight off a keurig which brews at 192. This overturns all of your “facts” unless you’d also suit keurig.
Great, now I can pour whole cups of coffee on my dick with impunity, knowing that it is the restaurant’s responsibility to protect me from injuring myself with commonly used everyday objects.
Exactly, and if you use them for enemas, you can pour them straight into your rectum. No waiting!
lol I almost spit my coffee out reading this. You would have been liable ohai.
It wasn’t “heated to egregious levels” a Keurig brews / pours at 192, same temp as McDonalds. They just kept it hot. So if I grab my keurig mug and spill it on my lap, I’d literally be in the same “egregious” situation but the “hot” label suddenly makes it ok… riiiight. Nearly every source you find says coffee should be brewed 190-205 degrees. So yes, some 80 year old clutz pours coffee at fresh brew temp on herself and manages to burn her balls off is just negligence. Attempting to spin this case into anything else or demonizing McDonalds for keeping it at fresh brewed temp is silly.
I accidentally stab myself with a knife at a restaurant, why was it so sharp? Lets suit!
I agree that if someone spills coffee on herself it is her own fault and negligence entirely. However, it is not unreasonable to ask McD’s to keep the coffee at a lower temp after the brewing process is complete if as result it can prevent thousands of potentially serious and life changing injury accidents to customers. Again where do you draw the line etc. with this kind of litigation to keep out the frivolous claims.
This time it’s Delta, punch line in bold:
http://6abc.com/travel/socal-family-thrown-off-overbooked-delta-flight-over-childs-seating/1952789/
A Southern California family says they were kicked off an overbooked Delta airplane because they refused to yield a seat held by their young son. The Schear family of Huntington Beach says they were flying from Hawaii to Los Angeles last week when airline staff asked them to give up a seat occupied by their 2-year-old son and carry him on their laps for the duration of the flight. They tried to refuse and argued with airline staff, but say they were threatened with being sent to jail. “You have to give up the seat or you’re going to jail, your wife is going to jail and they’ll take your kids from you,” Brian Schear recalled the airline staff telling him. Despite feeling they were in the right, that threat was terrifying, said Brian’s wife, Brittany Schear. “As a mother, you have a 1-year-old and a 2-year-old - it doesn’t matter whether that’s true or false. It put fear in me,” she said. They filmed the encounter with airport staff and posted it on YouTube.
“You’re saying you’re gonna give that away to someone else when I paid for that seat?” Brian Schear says to an airline employee. “That’s not right.”
Eventually he agreed to hold his son on his lap for the flight - but it was too late. The airline said the whole family had to leave.
Brian Schear and his wife were ordered to yield the purchased seat of their infant son Grayson and hold him on their lap. (KABC) That was around midnight, and the couple and their two toddlers were left having to scramble for a hotel room and pay $2,000 for another flight the next day, on United.
Reminds me of the time I went to sf for the day for an interview from Boston. Flight in the morning was connecting through Philadelphia. It started to snow in Philly and I was running through the Philly terminal as I saw it pull away from its gate. I had a 5 hour margin to get to the office from the airport in sf originally. The interviewer wasn’t willing to stay an hour late to interview me so I had to wait a day and miss my original flight back. Cost a grand extra (hedge fund didn’t pay for the flight). That sucked. Airlines sucked. Not to mention I was told the reason I didn’t get the job was because I didn’t show that I wanted it bad enough according to the guy, even though I went out there on my own dime and was the only one the guy interviewed who presented an investment idea (which had 40% gains between the time I recommended it and on the basis of my rec, and the time when I got turned down about two weeks later).
#chiponyourshoulder
Bruh, you ALWAYS arrive the night before for a quality interview that’s any amount of distance away.
Fly for an interview on your own dime? i didnt realize this is a thing
Ikr not gonna make that mistake twice. Was broke as a joke at the time though and didn’t wanna pay for a room for the night.
^ Good lesson to learn I guess. And screw that company; you don’t want to work for a douche like that.
Not sure about those guys who say “you don’t want the job enough”. I get that they think you will work harder, but if the candidate is very good, usually the company needs to sell themselves as well, since they don’t need your job offer either…