“Chinese vs. Korean”? I don’t think Koreans are “free Chinese”. And I find it confusing when people use “Chinese” and “Asians” interchangeably. Asians are at least as diverse as the Europeoid race, if not more. Even the term Chinese is confusing, China is multinational. And when people say “Chinese” they just refer to Han. What about Uygur? Check out “Ethnic groups in Asia”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Asia
wow great Valores considering that 99% of Chinese are Han.
NYC Gorilla, quick check: 91.6% are Han. Do you really work in finance?
Considering that Han constitute around 20% of the world population, the Chinese minorities population is over one third of the total US population. Could that number of people be just so easily discarted? Besides, Han constitute 20% of the world population, and Asians excluding Han are 40% of the world population.
F the Russians in Brighton Beach. Mobster thugs sitting in cafés, sipping tea in little glasses, sugar cubes between their teeth
¿? Do you think I am a representative of an older generation of Jewish people from Russia sipping tea on Brighton Beach?
AND I don’t understand this hatred post against Russian jews.
NYCGorilla Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > F the Russians in Brighton Beach. Mobster thugs > sitting in cafés, sipping tea in little glasses, > sugar cubes between their teeth its absinte, brah - get off my case
jcole21 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it because they cheat mo? Are you talking to me ? I’m not Chinese , but I know many of them cheated on the qualifier exams in my Ph.D. program. This article is mostly moral warfare against Americans. “The Chinese are better, they are superior at math, they work harder, you can’t compete, bla bla bla …” This style of parenting has nothing to do with Chinese. Indians are like that too. Personally, I expect my kid to get straight A’s in every test as well, does that make me a better father? He gets an allowance only when he scores 100% on tests. (2 dollars per math test and 1 dollar for any other subject). I make him swim one mile everyday, bla bla …
She’s not an unreliable narrator; she’s a market-driven writer saying outrageously false things about how she raised her children and playing into popular stereotypes from the title to the last page to sell books. Just like she wanted her children to have the trappings of success–awards, high grades–she is motivated by the trapping of success–book sales as a measure of the quality of a book. Pathetic.
marcus phoenix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > She’s not an unreliable narrator; she’s a > market-driven writer saying outrageously false > things about how she raised her children and > playing into popular stereotypes from the title to > the last page to sell books. > Just like she wanted her children to have the > trappings of success–awards, high grades–she is > motivated by the trapping of success–book sales > as a measure of the quality of a book. > Pathetic. So you’re saying “Faster than the Speed of Love” really is better than “Wish It. Want It. Do It.”
The woman who wrote this article is crazy lol. I’m Korean and in general, Asian cultures are simply different from Western cultures when it comes to education. High school is much harder in Asia than it is in America, but college education in America is superior due to vastly larger budgets. I’ll tell a short story. When I was doing math problems in elementary school (14+25, 46x33, etc.) I was having trouble doing problems and asked my mom for help. She sat down with me to do the problems but wouldn’t give me too many answers (as a good parent/teacher should do). When I was still struggling, she called me an “idiot.” Now, in Korean culture, this is perfectly normal. My mom was motivating me. She even told me to “use my brain” when I asked her about how to cook something recently. This is not an attack as it would be interpreted in America. I’m completely fine with it. There are no guilt trips, no crying. It’s hard to explain if you’re not Asian, but name-calling is just normal. When I have children, I’ll push them to be the best. I won’t go crazy like this woman, but I would expect A’s and top performance. If you get an A- so what? There are high schoolers who get A-'s in class and still end up ranked top 5. That’s ok with me.
Name-calling is not normal for all Asians. In many Asian cultures that would be a heavier insult than it is in Europe.
Alucard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Black Swan Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > And > > yes, I firmly hold people accountable for the > > government they allow to rule them. > > You’re so lost and misinformed. I feel sorry for > you, I really do. What the f%ck do you know about > living under the socialist regime you imbecil? What I know about socialist regimes is that I don’t live under a socialist regime, because OUR country took on one of the world’s greatest empires to gain freedom. As have many other countries whose populace stood their ground, we are not alone in having done so, and it is weak willed irresponsibility for a people to claim helplessness after so many other populations fought for their own freedom. No country that is free got there without sacrifice. It wasn’t an issue of not having the means, although it may be a cultural issue, possibly poor parenting. As the founding fathers said, “give me liberty or give me death.” > You take the freedom that you have for granted. No I do not, I am vehemently proud of it. You on the other hand do, as you seem to assume freedom is handed to nations, and apparently the people under your socialist regime feel the same helpless apathy too. Che would be a good role model for you, maybe you could grow a pair after learning from him instead of claiming helpless irresponsibility for who you allow to rule you. Everything’s a choice, only the consequences change. > YOU hold people accountable , who the f^ck are you to > hold people accountable? If I don’t who will? Which is a question also pertains to people under totalitarian governments. People who allow a government to rule them and pay taxes to that government are thus responsible for the actions of the government their apathy has enabled. Every time this process causes the US to have to step in after we get impacted, people protest, “but who is the US to change another govt?” By your lack of logic, if the people can’t and the US can’t, who can? Anyhow, you’re taking it out of context, I simply meant within terms of impact on GDP for the comparison I was making. Not in terms of a personal indictment of other populations. > What you think > overthrowing a socialist government or any regime > at that is a simple thing? What’s wrong with you? Are you crying? Anyhow, never said it was simple, holding someone accountable and claiming a task is easy are independent actions.
Valores, I know that Koreans are not identical to Chinese (nor are South and North Koreans identical). The article’s author explicitly included other Asians as “Chinese”, and also lumped everyone else into “The West”, so while I understand that Korean <> Chinese, it does fit the tone and analysis of the article. It’s also true (as far as I know) that the specific qualities that the author ascribes to “Chinese” also apply to South Koreans (certainly to a much greater extent to the standard western european/american/canadian). So I stand by my argument that comparing mainlanders, Taiwanese, and South Koreans would be a useful way to get at the question of authoritarianism. SK and Taiwan have been democratic for about a generation, so maybe that’s not enough time, but I would be curious about the results).
Black Swan Wrote: > > What I know about socialist regimes is that I > don’t live under a socialist regime, because OUR > country took on one of the world’s greatest > empires to gain freedom. As have many other > countries whose populace stood their ground, we > are not alone in having done so, and it is weak > willed irresponsibility for a people to claim > helplessness after so many other populations > fought for their own freedom. No country that is > free got there without sacrifice. It wasn’t an > issue of not having the means, although it may be > a cultural issue, possibly poor parenting. As the > founding fathers said, “give me liberty or give me > death.” > > You take the freedom that you have for granted. > > > No I do not, I am vehemently proud of it. You on > the other hand do, as you seem to assume freedom > is handed to nations, and apparently the people > under your socialist regime feel the same helpless > apathy too. Che would be a good role model for > you, maybe you could grow a pair after learning > from him instead of claiming helpless > irresponsibility for who you allow to rule you. > Everything’s a choice, only the consequences > change. > > > > YOU hold people accountable , who the f^ck are > you to > > hold people accountable? > > If I don’t who will? Which is a question also > pertains to people under totalitarian governments. > People who allow a government to rule them and > pay taxes to that government are thus responsible > for the actions of the government their apathy has > enabled. Every time this process causes the US to > have to step in after we get impacted, people > protest, “but who is the US to change another > govt?” By your lack of logic, if the people can’t > and the US can’t, who can? Anyhow, you’re taking > it out of context, I simply meant within terms of > impact on GDP for the comparison I was making. > Not in terms of a personal indictment of other > populations. > > > What you think > > overthrowing a socialist government or any > regime > > at that is a simple thing? What’s wrong with > you? > > Are you crying? Anyhow, never said it was simple, > holding someone accountable and claiming a task is > easy are independent actions. That’s exactly it, you don’t know sh&t. Cultural issues, bad parenting… Bad parenting did you even think about what you just wrote? Why don’t you try to overthrow your government right now and see how that works out for you. Once a regime has settled and starts expanding and strenghtening its roots it’s practically impossible to do anything about it - this is generations and generations. If the Cubans or the people of Venezuela try to overthrow their gov’ts right now, can you please tell me what you think would happen. What, you think people are not scared of death? You’d make a great leader - the next Lenin or Che or whatever it may be. You’re telling me to grow a pair? Maybe you should try and look past your trailer park and see the world a little, hopefully it will give you some more perspective as to why the world the way that it is. Again, you’re just spewing stupid sh^t which make you look like a 12 year old, and you continue arguing for the sake of arguing. I said it before I’ll say it again - you don’t know sh&t. You’re sitting in a comfortable chair, your @ss is warm and your stomach is full and you have very good ideas. Ok, I’m going to go and put your ideas to practice against my socialist government right now. Thanks for your help chief.
You know what the governments should do? They should start trading people. Take you for instance. Even from purely economical perspective I believe yyour country would be better off if they traded you for some other person who is not retarded and closed minded and wants to come to US from a socialist country and build his life. You, in turn, would be sent to his country of residence where you would openly state your ideas and beliefs. I think that would set you straight.
Alucard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Black Swan Wrote: > > > > > What I know about socialist regimes is that I > > don’t live under a socialist regime, because > OUR > > country took on one of the world’s greatest > > empires to gain freedom. As have many other > > countries whose populace stood their ground, we > > are not alone in having done so, and it is weak > > willed irresponsibility for a people to claim > > helplessness after so many other populations > > fought for their own freedom. No country that > is > > free got there without sacrifice. It wasn’t an > > issue of not having the means, although it may > be > > a cultural issue, possibly poor parenting. As > the > > founding fathers said, “give me liberty or give > me > > death.” > > > > You take the freedom that you have for > granted. > > > > > > No I do not, I am vehemently proud of it. You > on > > the other hand do, as you seem to assume > freedom > > is handed to nations, and apparently the people > > under your socialist regime feel the same > helpless > > apathy too. Che would be a good role model for > > you, maybe you could grow a pair after learning > > from him instead of claiming helpless > > irresponsibility for who you allow to rule you. > > > Everything’s a choice, only the consequences > > change. > > > > > > > YOU hold people accountable , who the f^ck > are > > you to > > > hold people accountable? > > > > If I don’t who will? Which is a question also > > pertains to people under totalitarian > governments. > > People who allow a government to rule them and > > pay taxes to that government are thus > responsible > > for the actions of the government their apathy > has > > enabled. Every time this process causes the US > to > > have to step in after we get impacted, people > > protest, “but who is the US to change another > > govt?” By your lack of logic, if the people > can’t > > and the US can’t, who can? Anyhow, you’re > taking > > it out of context, I simply meant within terms > of > > impact on GDP for the comparison I was making. > > Not in terms of a personal indictment of other > > populations. > > > > > What you think > > > overthrowing a socialist government or any > > regime > > > at that is a simple thing? What’s wrong with > > you? > > > > Are you crying? Anyhow, never said it was > simple, > > holding someone accountable and claiming a task > is > > easy are independent actions. > > > That’s exactly it, you don’t know sh&t. Cultural > issues, bad parenting… Bad parenting did you > even think about what you just wrote? Why don’t > you try to overthrow your government right now and > see how that works out for you. Once a regime has > settled and starts expanding and strenghtening its > roots it’s practically impossible to do anything > about it - this is generations and generations. If > the Cubans or the people of Venezuela try to > overthrow their gov’ts right now, can you please > tell me what you think would happen. What, you > think people are not scared of death? > > You’d make a great leader - the next Lenin or Che > or whatever it may be. You’re telling me to grow a > pair? Maybe you should try and look past your > trailer park and see the world a little, hopefully > it will give you some more perspective as to why > the world the way that it is. Again, you’re just > spewing stupid sh^t which make you look like a 12 > year old, and you continue arguing for the sake of > arguing. I said it before I’ll say it again - you > don’t know sh&t. You’re sitting in a comfortable > chair, your @ss is warm and your stomach is full > and you have very good ideas. > Ok, I’m going to go and put your ideas to > practice against my socialist government right > now. Thanks for your help chief. You are from Venezuela? Even if you overthrow Chavez, you will end up going back to a military dictatorship… going from a frying pan to the fire. Don’t you think that some of the onus lies on the people itself to choose moderate leaders and for your elites (which I presume you are a part of) to stop supressing the vast majority of your population?
- bad parenting comment was tongue in cheek 2) I was right, you are crying 3) “What, you think people are not scared of death?” Many people died in all the revolutions I just cited, including the great Che. 4) “Once a regime has settled and starts expanding and strenghtening its roots it’s practically impossible to do anything about it - this is generations and generations.” Everyone who stood up against a government overcame this same fear at some point. Which is the difference between you and them. 5) You know what the governments should do? They should start trading people. Take you for instance. Even from purely economical perspective I believe yyour country would be better off if they traded you for some other person who is not retarded and closed minded and wants to come to US from a socialist country and build his life. No thanks, stay where you are, we have enough sheep as it is.
there is no way of getting through that thick scull of yours is there? you didn’t read anything that I wrote, or you just can’t admit that you’re wrong? Come visit me in Venezuela chief, drinks on me, revolution on you… anyway, very cool story comrade, very cool.