the name is bit…hobbit
How about for this election then?
Even going back to the 08 election, Romney was governor for an entire 4 years, and prior to that had no background in elected office. I’m not sure where his vastly superior resume comes from.
He handled the olympics committee which was in a big deficit, and he turned it around and baalnced that.
His private equity experience, a lot of running numbers and getting things to work. Actual business experience. Obama’s experience is pretty much just govt, and we all know how well that runs…
I would say that, yes, somebody who did what Romney did would HAVE to be HIGHLY SKILLED taking in massive amounts of data and making huge decisions. Much more info needs to be taken in with PE than with community organizing/race bating. Give me a break bro.
The partners at Bain that found romney and put him to work used to say he was a data machine. I mean, the guy has a double degree from a special branch of HBS and has worked in top positions at the biggest banks. We all know he is a data guy. That he can take in massive amounts of data and make decisions, like funding staples. Obama is a semi-burnout who road the race-card/ im-cool-with-young-people card to the presidency. He’s done all right, but there is just no contest between him and romney. Im with Ohai. I think Romney would take the job more seriously than obama and has the capacity to visualize models of the economy in his head. Where Obama has just learned basic economics and politcal economics over the last four years. It’s literally been an “intro to business” learning experience for him. He came in litterally spouting anti-capilist, those “fat cat bankers” bull shit to now hiring a “business czar”.
No contest. Romney = Alpha. Obama = Beta.
Romney didn’t have presidential feel about him…
good points
Olympics – he got money from the Fed. Big deal. His only accomplisment was not stealing the money like the last guys.
PE – he ran 150 Harvard MBAs not really business.
Gov – only real achivement was something he ran from. He would not have been re-elected.
He should have done a commercial that
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really drove the point home, in less than 10 seconds, about the massive amount of data a president must take in and act on, and how hectic this can be with time-constraints and the stakes-at-hand.
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then, in 10-15 seconds, juxtapose, in a resume/job interview fashion, Obama and his resume.
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Use the last 5 seconds of the 30-second spot to say you will not outlaw abortion or contraception… say it literally as many times as you can in 5 seconds-- hopefully at least 4.75 times.
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spend 25 million dollars a month making this a national ad on both radio and TV
this would have secured victory
optional steps:
- Have a rapper endorse you
What does PE experience have to do with politics? Being a community organizer puts right next to poor working class people in major urban centers. It is politics at the most fundamental level. I’d prefer a community organizer over a PE executive who is far out of touch with the reality of mainstream America.
As for alpha/beta. Obama is a handsome, charismatic man, extremely popular with his base, respected outside it, and a devastating speaker who pwned Mitt Romney yesterday. Romney is a banker who grew up with a governor daddy and has spent his whole life doing his life’s calling - making money. He has zero charisma, can’t relate to people, and without his money, he’d be another empty suit.
Obama is clearly the alpha here.
Also, why does “business experience” suddenly become a qualification to be president? Is the nation a business? I surely don’t want Larry Ellison running the country.
Obama is also the only liberal political leader who is truly badass since maybe JFK. Do you know how hard that is?
Our paths diverge, but I respect your opinion.
Did Romney overestimate the stupidity of the American people?
I only watched about 10 minutes of guy, but had him figured out in 10 seconds. Bush said stupid things that made no sense and everyone was like “yee haaa let’s sign up for that, toss me a PBR”. Seems like Romney thought he was going to get away with the same nonsense, because people are dumb and want to elect someone like themselves. Yet for some reason it didn’t work this time.
And uhh he’s some former investment banker talking head, not exactly likable after what happened.
Right, for himself. I found it hard to believe some wall street dude cares about anything else.
The binder full of women statement didn’t help either.
If shareholders were as ornery as Congress, then being a successful corporate CEO might arguably be more relevant experience than it actually is. It’s not completely irrelevant, because both (large) businesses and governments are bureaucracies that have to get things done, but there are many more things to balance in politics.
Businesses aren’t democracies, and if you run them into the ground, you just close the doors and walk away. Modern industrial countries aren’t that way, even if W tried to run the US the same way he ran his oil companies.
I think Romney’s experience as a governor is more relevant to his performance as a potential president. Personally, I felt that Romney would have been a basically competent President, but it was just too dangerous to hand that much power to the domineering forces in the party behind him.
If the Republican party had the adults moderates in charge, I still probably would have voted Obama, but I wouldn’t have been all that worried about what would happen to the rest of us if Romney won.
As to other themes in the thread… voting on a single issue is really a recipie for disaster. Yes, our pocketbooks are important, but we live out our lives in many other ways. Most of us are not one-dimensional people (though a lot of finance people are, and the shallowness of that thinking is really astounding). The biggest things that happen administrations are often not the things that people get elected on (though admittedly, an economic crisis like this is more likely to be a central issue): as a result, it’s the orientation and worldview of the President that matters more than specific policy details. I think that much of the public felt that Romney would be too willing to say “screw you, 99%, me and my buddies are taking my stuff and having a party.” Whether or not this is actually true (I think it could well be), Obama successfully exploited that to secure re-election.
It was the DNC in 04 that put Obama on the map.
As for 2016, it will be the 2 dynasties of politics of the last 2 decades that will be facing off for the last time: Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush.
Is the US ready for a female President? Unfortunately, I’m not sure. Not sure about Jeb either… I think the Bush name might be permanently damaged after Iraq.
Christie 2016
Just compare the resumes:
Education: Obama - Occidental College transfer to Columbia, Harvard Law (certainly not bad); Romney - Stanford tranfer to BYU, Harvard Law and HBS (You have to give the edge to Romney there).
Professional Career: Obama - Church based community organizer, occasional attorney, and University of Chicago LS lecturer (meh); Romney - Boston Consulting Group, recruited away to Bain & Company, asked to cofound Bain Capital, asked to return to Bain & Company to save it from bankruptcy (which he did), asked to save the Salt Lake City Olympics (which he did) (again, edge to Romney).
Political Career: Obama - 2 1/2 term state senator, 1/2 term US senator (he beat Alan Keyes) during which he spent a large portion of his time running for president; Romney - failed US Senate bid (could anyone have unseated Teddy?), single term MA governor. (I don’t put much weight on state senate, but 3 years in the US Senate is nothing to sneeze at and he did sit on relevant committees. I give this a push though because being a governor is direct executive branch experience).
So, Romney has a more impressive education, a more impressive professional career, and a push at the political level. What about Obama’s 4 years as POTUS Higgmond?, you ask. Well, if you think he did a good job give him credit for that (I dont’ think he did a good job), but don’t forget that GWB had 4 years experience as POTUS when he ran against John Kerry and I don’t think many Obama supporters voted for GWB, did they?
Haha man crush much? Do you think Mitt the Twitt could have won if he was black?