Body image issues... for MEN

I was at the beach and saw plenty of the attractive girl slob bf combo. I always suspected insecure women date these slobs because they presume it will be harder for them to cheat.

why is it fraud?

even if she’s drunk she wouldn’t get it on with someone she isn’t interested at least sub-consiously in would she?

edit-we’re talkin about normailish girls…not those who have some deep rooted fantasy to get train’d or something

She might… Alcohol is a tricky thing

You’ll still be in the friend zone. You’ll just be in the “friend who was a mistake” (and possibly not a friend anymore).

+1000

so you’ve climbed up one rung from the bottom.

now just figure out how climb the next step.

ok seriously…this whole ‘friendzone’ thing has to be a myth.after getting a drunken kiss,surely you can lay some of your cards on the table and see how it plays out. i don’t understand how someone can get friendzoned if they don’t want to be there.

You don’t have to stay friendzoned if don’t want to. You can openly talk to her about it.

But I think using alcohol to climb up one rung is low and not fair

This may spark up a thread from the past debating whether platonic relationships can exist between the opposite sexes. If you think no, then the rational move to make when in the friend zone would be to state one’s intentions. Outcome A, you get the girl. Outcome B, you escalate the process of not being friends. If you believe opposite sexes can be friends, well thats another story beyond my rational.

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interesting…unless she’s hyper horny or something which we shall take of the table,surely even with alcohol there has to be some spark somewhere which alcohol is just exaggurating?

I think the argument is more that men have great difficulty staying friends with women they want to sleep with. Women can very easily be friends with men they don’t want to sleep with.

The key point you’re missing is that it depends as much on what she wants as what you want. Acquaintances can be upgraded, but friends generally cannot, unless a lot of time has passed since you last saw each other.

There’s also the scenario where she’s interested but holds back because she thinks you aren’t or you are with someone else, and then something happens to change that situation, but thats where the woman is in the friend zone, and that’s a different dynamic.

Could be many reasons besides horny:

  • emotionally volatile,

  • feeling angry/insecure for whatever reason and using it to make herself feel better,

  • doing smth stupid just for the sake of doing smth stupid

all this might not even be related to the guy himself.

Remember that when men cheat, it’s generally about who he cheated with.

When women cheat, it’s often about who she’s cheating on.

She may well do you just to make the guy she was with earlier feel unspecial.

Speaking of getting chicks all liquored up and then banging them and then feeling bad about it…

Where in the world is BS? He’s been gone for two weeks. Did the Navy Seal finally catch up to him?

Yep, that’s particular nasty reason. Although I thought the assumption was that both people are single…

Cheating is the whole other ball game…

True. I guess I got into this line because bad decisions made while drunk often include cheating.

True. Plus I presume it’s much easier to get over an unnecessary hookup than cheating…

That’s some yoda-level wisdom, Bchad.

Oh interesting…

My mind keeps running all the different scenarios in my life…