What’s so yikes? You have a country with extreme poverty, extreme corruption and extreme violence. In all sincerity they need someone with the ability to institute reform and nobody else was going to do it. Something like 30 of the 50 most violent cities are in Brazil, a quarter of the population never graduates high school, a quarter of murder trials expire under statute of limitations. Place is a literal war zone.

and a good chunk of those who graduate have mediocre writing and reading competence

It’s time to reconfigure the classification of these parties. 5-star in Italy is still deemed “far right”, Bolsonoero is labeled the epitome of “far right”, trump, duterte etc. Populism is closer but fails to truly capture the movement that is riding high. The fact of the matter is the facade of globalism/capitalism has created more of a caste system than anything else and most people are waking up to the charade. Given the option to continue as BAU or elect some new blood - they test their luck with the ladder, the option that is indeed, new.

when there is chaos, you need a strongman authoritarian to wipe out the bad things of society. kind of like chemotherapy for cancer. sure some good cell’s will go down, but you will stop the bad cells from multiplying.

when combined with immunotheraphy, this will cure cancer 4eva!

“I wouldn’t rape you because you don’t deserve it.” (2014)

“I am in favour of torture, you know that. And the people are in favour as well.” (1999)

“The scum of the earth is showing up in Brazil, as if we didn’t have enough problems of our own to sort out.” (2015)

“Elections won’t change anything in this country. It will only change on the day that we break out in civil war here and do the job that the military regime didn’t do: killing 30,000. If some innocent people die, that’s fine. In every war, innocent people die.”

bolsonaro is most definitely far right as it pertains to social issues and native relations. he’s basically going to sell the amazon to the highest bidder and murder its inhabitants if they don’t vacate.

on the other hand, he is incredibly centrist as it pertains to the economy given he and his finance minister are about to initiate the greatest shift to capitalism the world has ever seen. they are aiming to privatize every business they possibly can, targeting up to US$215B in asset sales. economic growth is going to be bonkers. can’t be far right if you don’t argue for state control of any assets.

Any success would be contingent on corruption reduction, which everyone seems to promise in Brazil but never achieve…

Bannon was right, all across the West people are sick of liberal-fascism.

Brazil is conservative, like every tribe of humans. Yet they’ve only had the option of leftist or leftist, same as every country in the West (leftism is social engineering, to control the masses, and thus maximize profit at their expense). And it’s completely unrepresentative of the people’s social beliefs.

That’s a falsifiable statement. Contingent means “existing only if certain circumstances are met.” Brazil is a lowish-IQ country, and will always have a lot of crime, so we can put the probability of ever becoming a low-crime country (like here in high-IQ NE Asia) at 0%. Yet his probability of being viewed as successful is not 0%.

Success could simply be breaking liberal-fasicsm, which people hate. And replacing it with values that are closer to their own. Conservative values build strong families, which decades later ripple out and make everything better. It doesn’t need to fit in an Excel spreadshit.

turning most SOEs into private companies (which will convert them into mostly US owned companies, such as ERJ) will naturally create accountability and do away with a lot of corruption. that is one thing corruption stricken south american countries have yet to try.

yep lol! but then the us gets all the profits! anyways its a bit risky anyways. isnt there a chance that shit gets nationalized. also think of venezuelan policies that basically made every corporation rage quit that area and send that place to a hellish shit show. the hispanic countries have a bit of communist leaning on them.

How do you view the Chinese central government on a left-right spectrum? I mean they are nominally still communist so you would think far left, but really it seems pretty centrist to me in practice.

there’s a chance but unlikely. it was his leftist challenger who was campaigning on more nationalization and corporate coddling. bolsonaro has been clear that he wants to privatize everything. this is partly due to his choice of finance minister who has a PhD from Booth and has advocated for privatization for 30 years. bolsonaro has an opportunity to retain power if and only if he completely adopts a capitalist system. anything short of that and he will either be assassinated or trigger a civil war.

So is this just part of the US consolidating/expanding their corporate empire in prep for WWIII with China?

Well, I should start by saying the left/right spectrum is bullshit.

The Chinese people are massively conservative (socially and financially). The government practices a hybrid of long-game central planning, bottom up capitalism, and top-down SOE corporatism. I don’t know what that makes it in a left/right binary model.

yep mad respect for china killing it and showing everyone up. im a big fan of central planning and a strong central base for stability. i feel it is more cooperative and efficient, the main issue is that it usually moves from a meritocratic society to crony capitalism, and that is typically bad for the long term. anyways, china is one of the few that is making it work though, so major props!

Yeah, the Chinese system has worked well over the past 25 years. I’m not sure if it’s a coincidence or not, but the fall of the USSR seems to have been great for China. They seem to have avoided a personality cult, dictator situation like they had in the past with Mao and Russia has today with Putin.

True. Mao was a ****, Xie is pretty cool.

It was a good move making him “semi-dictator,” Singapore had a great run with their dictator too. It could easily go bad with a different character in that spot. But he’s quite measured.

therein lies the problem. the moment you get someone shitty for life. central planning is a double edged sword.

great stuff!

With the Southeast Asian nation facing an uncertain future with the death of its revered monarch on Thursday, a new photo has emerged of the throne’s heir apparent looking more court jester than king.

Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, 64, showed up at an airport in Munich recently, strutting around in a rolled-up tank top, sagging jeans and fake tattoos with a poodle in tow.

In contrast to his father, King Bhumibol Adulyadej, whose death ends a 70-year reign, the playboy prince has a reputation among his soon-to-be subjects for bizarre behavior, womanizing and cruelty to his many wives.

Taking a page from Caligula, Vajiralongkorn named his favorite pet, a poodle named Foo Foo, as an air marshal.

He even took the pooch to a 2007 reception hosted in his honor by US Ambassador Ralph “Skip” Boyce.

“Foo Foo was . . . dressed in formal evening attire complete with paw mitts, and at one point during the band’s second number, he jumped up onto the head table and began lapping from the guests’ water glasses,” Boyce wrote, according to a WikiLeaks document.

But in 2007, the depravity of Vajiralongkorn’s court was exposed when a video surfaced of his third wife, Princess Srirasmi, a former bar waitress, walking around topless at her own birthday party while eating cake with Foo Foo.

When the dog died last year, it was given a four-day funeral.

Srirasmi has split from the prince after being booted from the Royal Palace in December. In a show of his cruelty, he recently allowed her parents to be thrown in prison for 2¹/₂ years for “royal defamation.”

His earlier two marriages were equally rocky. During his first — to his cousin — he allegedly fathered five kids with a mistress, then married the mistress. Later he dumped her, forcing her to flee the country.

The new images of him are sensitive, with officials detaining the Thai wife of a British journalist who put them online.

While Vajiralongkorn is the heir apparent, some hope his younger sister, Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn, might ascend to the throne. But women are banned from the throne.

Vajiralongkorn, meanwhile, has asked for four days to mourn before being installed as king — but some wags think he only wants more time to party.

The vast wealth of Thailand’s royal family has formally turned over its assets with more than $30bn to King Maha Vajiralongkorn, who assumed the throne after the death of his father in 2016.

An undated announcement seen Saturday on the website of the Crown Property Bureau, which controls the royal wealth, says that assets it has been administering will be put in the same category as the monarch’s personal assets and managed together at his discretion.

Vajiralongkorn’s father, King Bhumibol, who reigned for seven decades, had professional managers who were also trusted insiders administer the palace’s business interests. The new king has sought to put his stamp on the monarchy, replacing palace officials with his own appointments.

Chirayu Israngkun Na Ayuthaya, who had been director general of the Crown Property Bureau since 1987, was replaced in March by Air Chief Marshal Satitpong Sukvimol, a close aide to King Vajiralongkorn.

The recent reorganization of the Privy Council of Thailand – long held as a key body serving the monarchy in Thailand – may not have been on the radar of outsiders with so many other headlines about Thailand’s wider politics as well as regional developments more generally.

Yet the developments in this respect warrant attention. The king’s decision to evict old members of the Privy Council close to his late father, King Bhumibol Adulyadej, the stripping of the power from its president, General Prem Tinsulanonda, as well as the appointment of his close confidants as new Privy Councilors, suggests that, more than just a process, this is part of the growing aggrandizement of political power of Thailand’s new King Maha Vajiralongkorn, or King Rama X.

By its nature, the Privy Council is an advisory and implementing body serving the king. At a deeper level, however, it represents a dominant power function in politics, as can be seen since its establishment in 1874 during the reign of King Chulalongkorn. The king set up the Privy Council, whose members were recruited from the Council of State, also founded in the same year, to break the power of Chaophraya Si Suriyawongse. Hence, traditionally, the Privy Council has been assigned a quintessentially political role; the significance of this role had notably increased during the reign of the late King Bhumibol.

Speaking of which, funny how communist this site has become.

When I typed tw@t it was fine, but now I check back 5min later and it looks like they added it to the banned words. I better be careful or my WC F&F will report me, downvoted into the WC-gulag.

If only this were true :frowning_face:

this is certainly part of it but the partnership benefits Brazil and Bolsonaro in particular more than it benefits the US. Bolsonaro getting chummy with the US certainly helps him not die and repel leftist revolution in the worst case scenario and helps him bolster Brazilian finances and rapidly grow the economy in the best case scenario, thereby stymying leftist revolution.