Fighting those bastards is as tough as the Vietnam war. For 18 months now, the UAE, KSA, and Jordan have been conducting air strikes on ISIS. They have been calling for a support for ground interventions, but the Russian involvement with the Syrian regime is not helping. 3 months ago, a coalition was formed to get boots on the ground. But this is hindered by the conflict between the US and Russia over their strategy in Syria and who’s supporting who. In Iraq, the Kurdish army (Sunnis ) is receiving all the support and funding they require on their efforts to fight ISIS. They freed a lot of regions. The UAE built a shelter to house 1 million refugees in Iraq (Muslims, Christians, and Ezedis). I know this because I volunteered in some efforts for the refugee camps.
Edit: these are armed sales against money received. Funny how this is called funding. It’s just like how China is funding the US by providing iPhones. Delusion is satisfying .
No, we give $10,000 in free support. The rest is armed sales. My point was that our support is relatively insignificant in response to Palantir’s contention that we fund the KSA so we are no better than them. Now, the discounted armed sales are a problem and I’ll be glad to see that go away.
^ 10 grands? I thought 10 billions. Man, am sorry, I keep trying to take you seriously . I have a couple of watches that worth more than 10 grands. Wouldn’t it better if the US send 2 boxes of Marlboro cigarettes?
Dude, am not kidding now, I really feel sorry for you. Not kidding. You might be a good young man with Naive views.
It’s not just about arms sales, it’s about broader strategic alignment, which was my point. The US, while fighting against AQ and Taliban is at the same time geopolitically on the same side as Sunni Islamist states when it comes to every other issue.
When it comes to Iran, US is a KSA ally, when it comes to the Houthis in Yemen, a KSA ally, when it comes to India (fighting an Islamist insurgency in Kashmir), a Pakistani ally, in Syria an ally of Islamist rebel groups, in Kosovo an ally of Islamist Albanians. Oh and before that was Bosnia, Chechnya, Afghanistan etc etc but you already know that.
Part of the problem is that this is the result of a cold-war centric worldview, in which the Sunni states aligned with the US while others aligned with the USSR. That said, the Cold War is over.
Ok, my original point you’re referring to was that our current amount of direct funding is INsignificant (read: NOT significant) in response to Palantir’s point to the contrary. Again, please try to keep up. The comment about that talking dog Mohammed really got you worked up, you can’t even read correctly. I’m worried about you.
The arms discounts on the other hand do add up to billions.
Sigh, allow me to quote myself from just a few posts up: “Sure, but military equipment is easier to track and isn’t the same as funding which could in turn go to ISIS. All that being said, I’d love for it to stop.”
“Now, the discounted armed sales are a problem and I’ll be glad to see that go away.”
I am genuinely happy to hear of these efforts as we here in the US do not hear much about Mulsim country involvement in fighitng radical Islam. But the answer to my question is clearly no, these countries are not doing enough and that is why Western countries need to be involved. And this creates a circular issue since it is the bombing by Westerners that these extremists use as one of their major recruiting tools. The world needs the Muslim community to regulate itself by increasing its miltary efforts in fighting ISIS and other radical Islamic organizations. And although it was mentioned earlier that some Muslim leaders have publicly spoken against recent terror events, it is far from the united front that is needed across most/all Muslim countries.
Best thing is if people set their own limits. It was unfortunate that it reached that low. Every society have their sacred figures/symbol (prophets, God, flag, traditions, political leaders, religious leaders,…). To criticize or challenge an idea is acceptable, to get that offensive toward a group is inconsiderate. And to be frank, am surprised to encounter such a language in this Forum. I thought contributors to this Forum are more enlightened.
Actually the Russians were the only ones to materially hurt ISIS. ISIS was expanding its territory until the Ruskies got involved. The Sunni States put some token assets there to fly around, none have sympathy for the Syrians beyond their personal goals of liberating the Sunnis there and helping them cleanse the minorities out of Syria. The only thing minority Syrians fear more than Assad is a Sunni radical group taking over.
It’s free speach and I was partly trying to draw out a point that’s been made in the past and one I referred to with the lack of reaction from the ME community following Charlie Hebdo. The west divorced from the idea of sacred cultural artifacts in favor of free speach some time ago.
I don’t feel a need to pay respect an old dead and likely mythical charicature responsible for more innocent bloodshed than Hitler any more than I feel a need for athiests to pretend Jesus exists as more than some form of trailerpark Santa.