Can men and women be friends?

Not the reaction I was going for, but I’ll take it :wink:

I think you underestimate yoru future spouse’s ability to own assets before you’re married and to make money afterward.

I think you underestimate the importance of your wife being a freak. It complicates things, but can be good.

I also think the term “alpha” just gets thrown around as a euphemism for “desireable.” One of the most “alpha” guys I know is a complete douchebag, which basically caused him to lose his job and get thrown out of the industry. One of the most traditionally “beta” guys (I went to HS and played hockey with him, so know him pretty well) is in the NHL, making millions and married to a smoking hot woman who is bi. Who’s winning at life?

Why does it complicate things?

Respect.

Respect. Much to AFs surprise, I consider myself beta. I carry myself well and always have a good time, but I’m not one to be the bulldog competitor for sake of winning.

Dude, did you see anything sxual in that post? I didn’t. You should go fap son.

This thread is lame. KR - I’m going to be in NY in April. Let’s grab a drink and bump uglies.

I mean, sure there are women who can and do accumulate assets and wealth but they seem to be quite the minority. I was chatting with a friend from college and was like, so when are you and the bf going to take the next step? Her response: when he can buy me a house. Now keep in mind, she’s a teacher and spends a lot of her money on wine and her nice and probably overpriced 1BR apt, just waiting for the next step. I’d love to find a woman that I actually liked for all the important reasons to begin with, but if she made just as much or more money than me? That would be awesome.

i agree with the first half and disagree (somewhat) in the last bit.

i think top guys benefit most from “dating” scene, while top girls are not as likely to get what they want.

And i don’t think all girls are going for that 20%, you’d be surprised how many pretty intelligent well spoken girls are not looking for rich, good looking men! MOST women, pretty, ugly or anything in between, just want men who are solid, reliable and dedicated to them.

i agree with the first half and disagree (somewhat) in the last bit.

i think top guys benefit most from “dating” scene, while top girls are not as likely to get what they want.

And i don’t think all girls are going for that 20%, you’d be surprised how many pretty intelligent well spoken girls are not looking for rich, good looking men! MOST women, pretty, ugly or anything in between, just want men who are solid, reliable and dedicated to them.

EXACTLY!

So i don’t even think those men will ever settle.

Sure, they may THINK they want to at the time. When the “supply of hot women” are slipping and they can no longer get the 25 year old at bars, maybe it’s a good idea to marry a 35 year old.

But what’s stopping him from dating other 35 year olds once he’s married?

and what’s stopping him from paying for 25 year olds when he can’t get the 35 year olds?

This is EXACTLY why i don’t think most men can be faithful because there are so many women who are WILLING to be “the other woman” knowingly.

it’s like if a guy can pull off a “nice family man” image, it’s almost working better for him than a sports car or a high paying job.

Wow, i’d tell such a woman to go do herself. She want’s a house, she can fking put half the money in or if you’re putting the money in she best be bringing a whole lot of other shit to the table.

The way he put it was downright weird or it flew over my head. I interpreted it as i’ll keep pulling tail and when the quality of tail starts to drop i’ll settle.

If that’s what he really meant then yea the question still stands.

Maybe complicates isn’t the right word. Freakiness requires a level of emotional comfort that goes beyond most traditional relationships.

“CAN MEN AND WOMEN BE FRIENDS?”

Answer:

Only if they are sleeping with each other.

Given that most people repress sexuality in polite company, freakiness can signify comfort with oneself in private (a good thing that allows exploration of mutual pleasure), but it can also signal an willingness to ignore social boundaries. The latter can be complex if/when there are situations where personal or social boundaries really ought to be respected (business environments, hanging with children, etc.). So that’s why it can get complex. You want the freakiness to be “only in appropriate circumstances,” and you don’t always get that.

I remember one comic (I forget who) saying “Of course men want a girl who’s a lady on the street and a freak in the bedroom; just imagine how awful the reverse would be!”

k

I agree. Extremely hard to find too.

^ Why’s that? You don’t find it…you create it.

If you can’t let go completely with someone you’re in a relationship with, when can you?