Damn you men!! wish we could live without you.
PUA?? Someone care to explain
If you’re cursing my analysis, I think it boils down to two things and how they interact.
- Both men and women want relationships with a satisfying physical component.
2a) For women, offers of sex are more typically plentiful than the number of suitors who have other desired qualities; therefore many women tend to chose to develop a relationship by looking at their suitor’s qualities, and then selecting to develop intimacy with the best offer available by someone with the qualities she wants. Thus, the top5 qualities come into play at or very near the start of a relationship, and she delivers a lot of "no"s or “just friends” talks to the others.
It still can be difficult for a woman to convince their favorite suitor to chase them, probably because many other women are competing for him. Hence a lot of wailing about “flowers from the wrong guy.” At that point, many women realize that a little bit of encouragement can go a long way to getting some attention from her preferred partner, although - obviously - it helps a lot to be physically attractive.
2b) For men, offers of sex are generally much fewer than the number of people who have other desirable qualities. Thus, men tend to choose their long term partners by taking the range of people who will have sex with them, and then deciding who among those has the best other qualities. Thus, the top5 qualities come into play not so much at the start of a relationship, but in terms of the decision to continue it once it has become physical.
Relationships are thus more stable when the woman likes the man’s qualities (so the relationship starts), and the man likes the woman’s other qualities (so the relationship continues).
One interesting question is why is it that women are more selective than men about their partners. I suspect it is simply because in many ways (physically, emotionally, reputationally, healthwise, pregnancy), sex is potentially more dangerous, risky, or consequential to women, so it’s not surprising that they are more selective about their partners than men are. If women weren’t as selective, then men would probably be focusing on top5 factors early on in the relationship as well.
PUA = Pick-Up Artist.
It’s basically a system to manipulate women’s emotions to get them to sleep with men.
To some extent, all seduction is manipulation, but the PUA has evolved into a subculture where there is virtually no concern for the state of a woman’s feelings and the potential damage that strategically placed lies, insults, and negative remarks can make, except to the extent that they can be used and manipulated to get her naked and providing sexual pleasure for a man who will most likely dump her and search for someone new the next day.
Also most self proclaimed PUA’s look like some variation of the ridiculous ass clowns in the two pictures posted above and fancy themselves a success at life with some form of insight into what women want.
I’ll add a #3. don’t capitulate and marry someone bec you had an “oops i’m pregnant” moment. It highly screws with your judgment, and people love to justify and spin in whatever way pretty bad scenarios
What the heck man!?! Serious note though, things are still going pretty great for me.
Nope. My wife and I were setup by mutual friends. And definitely no sex on the first date. She was a good girl and made me work for it. I’ve since corrupted her.
You’re probably thinking of the story I told about the time after a fraternity event when I fell off my raised bed and smashed through my ply-wood table (it really pulled the room together) and didn’t wake up even though I was naked, bleeding, and proceeded to puke on myself. She got me cleaned up and took me to student health services where I got the great idea it would be funny to tell the doctor she pushed me off the bed.
I was not a good boyfriend.
i thought u were smooth bro. i might take my comment back
@Sweep - yeah, that’s the story I was thinking about. It sounded like a first-time drunken hookup when you told it. But I guess you actually met her some time before that.
lol this sounds pretty much identical to finance
some of bchads moves back in the day
http://www.hot995.com/onair/the-kane-show-47672/the-six-worst-dating-moves-guys-13382943/
smuggy - its a mutual feeling
kr - we all dogs, some are better at hiding it
bchad - abridged version please
A famous musing by Carl Linnaeus
“The vagina in women does not become more ample when they are fat, more likely narrower; the thinner they are, the larger the vagina.”
Yeah, it’s why young bankers love those books…
So basically, “Hotness” is the first trait you guys look into. It is enough to spend atleast one night with the person.
We dont necessarily need a man just for sex ( we have other options for that) but to make us feel desireable. We like to have a person by our side with whom we can share everything.
what happened to nana troll. id be interested to hear ther thoughts
What has been apparent to me in dating the last few months is how much woman want great sex. Lots of guys are terrible in bed (but think they are good re: illusory superiority complex). If a woman finds a guy that is great in bed that guy has it MADE. Chicks hide it better and come across as “I want a good guy and sex is not that important” but the reality is its very important to woman more than guys think it is or woman make it out to be.
@Smuggy (or emichan or Wendy or Krnyc) - I’ll make you a deal. If you have sex with me, I’ll make you feel desireable. At least for a while.
Isn’t that the tradeoff that most men and women are making?