What about a real bow tie?
Are you concerned that he can’t tie shoelaces?
lol with that said. i do prefer shoes without shoelaces. is that a bad thing as well?
Where to begin?
Don’t speak, I know just what you’re sayin’
So please stop explainin’
Don’t tell me ‘cause it hurts
Don’t speak, I know what you’re thinkin’
I don’t need your reasons
Don’t tell me 'cause it hurts
Bolo or bust.
Pair that with some Tecovas and a ten-gallon hat, and nobody asks you any questions.
. . . and a pair of six-guns (where open carry is permitted) . . . .
When in Rome…
A TERRIBLE idea. You might as well wear a scarlet polyester suit while you’re at it.
I’ve handtied my bowties for over a decade now. Here’s the website where I order mine: https://www.bowtieclub.com. Kirk Hinckley is the owner, and he’s extremely knowledgeable. Here’s an excellent YouTube video that shows you how to do it:
Highly recommended!!
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StrategyGuy! How you been, man? I always figured you were a bow tie man…
allright what about buying suit outfits at nordstrom? I’ll admit that for the last 10 years ive been buying my crap at macys. lol
also in my defense i rented a tux for a wedding and they gave me a zipper tie. so i thought it was ok to do so in a business setting as well.
Which MBA program mandates clip-on ties?
Do clown colleges offer MBA programs??? 
Go on YouTube, it’s easy to learn the Windsor or Half Windsor Knot.
If you’re wearing a clip on tie, it’s a similar risk to sporting a “good” fake Rolex.
You may think it looks good, and it may. But there’s the risk you run into someone who knows the real thing, then you risk being discredited. It’s hard to explain why you’re wearing it if you get called out, and you can’t walk it back. My 2 cents.
If you’re wearing a tie it should be a quality tie that gives a strong personal brand support as the moment requires. Don’t risk getting memed by your B-School cohort colleagues as the class clip on tie guy.
Regarding Macy’s and department store suits: when you get out of B-School you will probably get some tailored suits when you need them, at some point. Until that time, if you want to avoid the discount label look, it’s easy to do. Take a knife and gently cut the thread in a few places, where it stitches the Macy’s label to the jacket inside lining. Don’t cut the jacket, only the thread where it’s stitched on top of the label you want to remove. Cut the thread in enough places and you can gently pull it all out, and the label or tag comes off too. In this way you can easily remove the label without damaging your jacket. So it doesn’t scream Macy’s every time you reach for your phone in public. You can steam the inner jacket where the thread holes are, and they generally disappear from view. It makes it look like maybe it’s a tailor made suit for you. Also do the same thing with the threads sewing your side pockets and top breast pocket closed. They are real pockets inside. That way you can put a handkerchief or pocket square in your breast pocket and your wallet/keys in your side pockets too. I don’t know why they sew them shut in dept stores but they do. Probably for storage. But they are real not faux pockets actually. The best dept store suits in my opinion are at Charles Tyrwhitt. They have those in Cali and most major cities in the USA. Same price for suits as Nordstrom or Macy’s but they look nicer and have surgical sleeves which are cool. Closest thing to tailored suits I’ve found on the store rack. Also great shirts and ties there.
Never wear a fake watch in real business. Trust me, the only folks who fall for that are folks who don’t know watches. I know this isn’t the question you asked but I’ll say it anyway in case someone else is privately debating whether to do it. Just last month I saw a fake Rolex GMT Pepsi on a sales guy I did a deal with. I said nothing but downgraded his status mentally as a less serious person trying to be someone they aren’t, he wasn’t touching the money he wanted to appear like he did. If you’re not a watch guy, or if you like the smart watches, stick with that it’s fine too. But if you’re getting a mechanical watch, the main thing is it needs to be a real one, just follow your taste and style wherever it leads. Unless it’s leading ultimately to a clip on tie choice. Don’t follow it quite that far. Cheers man you’ll be great in B-School regardless surely. Big success awaits you in 2 years.
Did some googling for you and knowing how to do a full Windsor is a top 10 MBA take away
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hey thx for the tip. i’ve decided to skip the department store and go to an actual tailor. im goign to the place that did my tux for my wedding where eevrything made in italy. sicne ur all being obnoxious, i guess ill drop some money on a suit. i just need 1 anyways. im in a much higher weight class due to covid. i figure 1 suit for fat nerdy makes sense
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The Simpsons has some wisdom to impart:
We’re not trying to be obnoxious here. Some of us are a little more distinguished in age and come from a generation where a suit and tie were standard dress in the office. 