They did fight the WWs, but Old Nan hinted that the 13th LC of the NW may have been a Brandon, and Old Nan is typically a reliable narrator. Plus I think we can guess that there is some sort of connection between the Others, COTF, and the Starks. The connection between the former has been revealed, but the latter is unclear.
What’s interesting is that based on the timeline it seems that first the First Men colonized Westeros, ethnically cleansed the COTF and eventually declared a peace treaty. AFTER this happened the Others emerged. So the COTF may have been trying to break the treaty and captured some northern guys to turn into WWs.
Plus there is that interesting Bran vision: “As the life flowed out of him in a red tide, Brandon Stark could taste the blood”.
I agree with your first paragraph. Very possible indeed. The rest I think you’re mixing in the TV show with book lore. It’s possible GRRM has an entirely different origin story for the WWs.
I was thinking of Brandon the Builder. Not sure that they ever say exactly how he died. Since the Night King was created from a man, would most likey have been that was slaughtering the Children. If both fought the WW’s though, can’t be either of them.
That episode was pretty awesome. The outcome may have been fairly obvious, but the direction/cinematography was terrific and watching Ramsey getting his face eaten off was so cathartic I still feel like I’m on a lot of xanax.
Well considering pretty much every possible outcome was already heavily talked about in internet forums/youtube videos and what have you, you can’t seriously expect something totally out of the blue 6 seasons into the show. Even GRRM admitted that fans have gotten pretty good at predicting what’s in store. there was a time yesterday when I sincerely thought Jon was going to die in a stampede. and then the knights of the vale came in and everyone went “OH BUT OF COURSE”.
It does look like Yara might have the silver tongue after all.
And it was fun to see the Mereen stuff, even if it seemed like a side event.
I agree that battle of the bastards ended up being kind of predictable, although well done in terms of pacing and cinematography. I enjoyed the adaptation of the Battle of Cannae. The only improbable outcome that might have been interesting is if Bran had somehow made something happen. Anyway, even though the outcome was predictable, they did a good job in keeping it from seemign a foregone conclusion.
STL is right. I didn’t stop to wonder where Ghost was until he mentioned it.
Sansa was great, but is she now indebted to Littlefinger again?
As for Jon, one wonders if the luck of not being struck by arrows will get interpreted (perhaps correctly) as protection from the Lord of Light.
Anyway, the ending was an unusual moment in GoT where audiences could feel that at least some justice happened. I suppose it’s nice that it can’t be all bad.
I like how the show just forgets she’s married to Tyrion. When he comes back, which is pretty soon I guess, he’ll be Mr. Sansa Stark and Warden of the North (provided Dany prevails, or at least kills the Lannisters. Otherwise, Tyrion will die for killing his dad and brother {falsely}).
Was that the first time Tyrion has been linked to the murder of the Mad King? I’ve always just assumed Jaime acted alone and on a whim there but based on what I heard last night it sounds like Tyrion at the very least helped plan that murder.
My thought on this question is “no” she is not indebted to Littlefinger. She spared him his life when they met in that stable/barn after she escaped Ramsay. This was him repaying her for that.
I didn’t catch the planning part. I just figured that Jamie and Tyrion had discussed it at another time, and Jamie told Tyrion what he knew about the Mad King’s plans and why that drove him to become the Kingslayer. Perhaps even while Tyrion was in the Dungeon awaiting his trial by combat. That’s why he was able to tell Dany about what happened to her father.
I’m not sure that there was anything that indicated that Tyrion was a participant.
It’s also a little odd… Jamie must have been barely a teenager at the time of Robert’s Rebellion, yet he was head of the Kingsguard? I realize that maybe there’s just a need for attractive actors who are younger on set, but if Jamie was head of the Kingsguard at the time of Dany’s birth and Tyrion is somewhat younger than Jamie, then I would expect a greater age difference between Dany and the other two.
