As a relatively recent alum of the actual CFA forums, WC is what keeps me coming back. careers and investments have picked up steam in the past few months which is great. But without the WC, I doubt I’d come back. I’ve already cut back the time spent here because of all the trolls.
JDV was before my time here so I can’t compare, but it seems we’re not lacking brains with S2000magician here. He does a helluva job with the candidates.
^JDV was great for the exam boards. Not really WC material though.
The sense of entitlement around here is unreal.
This is a FREE service. No one is holding a gun to your head and making you visit AF. If you don’t like how things are going, then don’t participate. We’ve had plenty of great contributors over the years who stopped posting - JDV, Frankie, Numi, Nuppal, Inner Evil Voice, Chicken Tikka/RH, IHIHM and Black Swan to some extent, off the top of my head - yet this place still survives because there’s a still a great core of participants who have been here a long time and add a lot of value.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against making improvements on the margin to make it a better experience. However, things like the reddit voting system make no sense - it works for a huge community with tons of trolls like Reddit, but a lot of times threads here that may start off on the wrong foot actually turn into interesting conversations, so it’d be a shame to downvote those right away and not give them a chance. Only allowing people to post in the WC after achieving a certain number of points makes way more sense; however, I understand the point about wanting to make sure that the unintended consequence of this rule of spamming in the other forums does not come to fruition.
Moreover, how hard is it to not click on new threads started by trolls? It takes literally 30 seconds to click on a questionable thread and see if there’s anything of interest in it or just troll flaming or an SRK circlejerk, before pressing the back button and getting back to the thread list.
TL;DR - this place is fine as is, we don’t need to make any changes. Just ignore the trolls or avoid reading their threads. The only time it’s a problem is if they are starting new threads at a rapid clip and valuable threads are falling off the main page, in which case the mods should step in to clean it up.
EDIT: The trolls aren’t all bad anyway - there was a thread a week or so ago in which RR copy and pasted some of his PMs (allegedly) which was one of the funniest threads I’ve seen on here in a long time.
^That was so yesterday.
^ My bad, was traveling the past two days and didn’t have time to post. Looks like I missed some excitement around here for a change.
Good post king_kong.
^ I know.
I’m out of the office for 3 days and I get back and I’m like…what the hell is going on around here?
Is this gaining traction?
I also wanted to add a comment for the mods. If you delete a post can you let the user know 1) it as deleted 2) why?
I think doing so will help people recognize the grey rules of the forum.
Per post delete commentary is a lot of work to ask of people doing this for free.
Frankly, when I delete a post, it’s usually blindingly obvious why it got deleted and I don’t feel those need explanation.
In more borderline cases, I will often edit the offending part or post in the thread for the member to tone it down. It’s the grey zone that maybe requires explanation, not every post that gets deleted. If it is not blindingly obvious why it went, I will respond to a request for explanation if I see it
Occasionally I delete something to try to keep a flame war from escalating or to stop something going down a path that is clearly explosive; it’s rare, but it happens. Those are probably the only ones that generate WTF responses from posters, usually because the posts up to that point were tolerated.
I think this comment is more about the claim that itera edits or deletes posts that are critical of him. I haven’t observed that first hand, but I can say when it happens to me, it does take a fair amount of strength of character to let crappy stuff stand when you do have the power to click the delete key.
^ really wasn’t about itera
I had a post deleted because I wrote “wh*re” which I thought is more PG than the stuff that I see around here - I get why it was deleted but I actually had a moment where I thought to myself, where did that post of mine go? Did i actually post it or was it deleted?
Not a big deal, just a thought.
I delete posts that are quite clear they are leading to either flame wars, have unnecessary vulgar language, obvious racism etc…
Yesterday I deleted 3 posts back and forth between STL and someone else i forget where the guy said he was doing X to STL’s wife, etc. and it was going downhill quite fast.
After those were deleted, I actually got crap from both of them. guy bec I deleted it, and STL who wanted me to keep those so he could attack back.
So in trying to keep AF civil, I become the villian and instead of attacking each other, apparently now I’m the target.
Whore is a borderline word, and not one you can firmly defend as AF-kosher.
However, it was because you called another member’s mother a whore that it went clearly over the top. Plus, it was written full out, not with the vowel bleeped out.
I was calling my own mom a whore which is actually worse now that I think about it.
Just curious, how many posts do you delete in a day?
I mean, it would only take an extra 7 seconds to hit the edit button, delete the comment, and replace it with “comment removed. Don’t be a dick.”
Yeah, that sounds about right.
^s2k used to do that
I mean, are you serious? The mod’s are already volunteering their time, it’s bad enough without having to dance around everybody’s toes for fear of not doing the most extensively koshur thing, which is why we always wind up with nobody doing anything because everyone bitched about each deletion, only to get a bunch of whining about lack of moderation later.
Itera, would it kill you to just print then retype each comment in a seperate “deleted” forum for us to read so we can all revel in whatever 5th grader response required deletion? It would also make sense if you compiled a brief 200 word explanation of your actions with sign offs from each of the other Boardmembers (time stamped obviously) as well as some supporting documentation and a TPS report of your group review of the comment. Don’t forget we’re doing coversheets on the TPS reports now, thanks!