Is emotional loneliness an "illusion"

examining <> thinking. There is a wealth of knowledge in turning off your logical mind and just observing. In fact, it opens you up to a universe of knowledge that your logical mind limits you from seeing. The delivery vehicle of this knowledge is feeling and emotion – there is infinitely more information in feeling and emotion (provided you can observe it without attachment). It’s impossible to get this information by thinking about it. You have to shut up, observe and feel.

I can relate to the analysis here, so that’s why i’m pushing back. At the end of the day, I really think you need to spend more time feeling your feelings and less time thinking about feelings. Not an uncommon issue, but you do see above average in your desire to ignore the fact that you can’t think feelings.

do you not truly care about your fellow man’s (and woman’s) wellbeing? can you not imagine what that individual is going through and do you not want to assist this person in any way you can? now imagine the person we are talking about is a loved one (spouse, child, etc.), and there is mutual care about each other’s well being. do you not listen intently to their problems and truly care about helping them along with their journey?

this is what marriage (and romantic relationships) is supposed to be about. it is not supposed to be transactional (or it at least doesn’t have to be). it only remains/becomes transactional if one party is keeping score and measuring inputs and outputs.

it is not about external validation but validation of one’s actions being bigger and longer lasting than oneself. kind of like how religion used to work i guess. be good and go to heaven. now its be good and your minions will continue on in better shape.

all of this helps by finding the right person/people, whether romantic or not.

i have found two of these people in my life. your kids are different because its this weird obligatory, hormonal connection.

Your wife and mistress? Nice!

It could be possible you are a sociopath (I think that’s the non serial killer word but could be wrong). That would make you subject to different rules.

8" but it really depends on where you start measuring…that old game amirite6 ?

Check it out KMD. This was written for you. Listen carefully.

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This might be a matter of preference. I’m not sure I can help myself! lol I was thinking last night about how I was stressing about this topic and the feedback I was getting. Maybe I DO overthink life, I thought. Then I was like, no! This is me, and at the end of the day when I can put the pieces together it is really rewarding for me. (and then I started analyzing why it was stressing me out :grin:)

The way I see it is that we are all fundamentally alone because no one can perceive the world though our eyes. No one can figure you out but you. The way you do this is you keep asking yourself how you feel and then try to understand why. After a while certain themes arise and this is most honest picture of who you really are. I don’t see any other way to learn who you are.

I am also a person who likes to be able to mark the passage of time with achievements. My birthday is in two months and I promised myself I would write at least one really good essay which will solidify a topic that I have achieved an original point of view on. Likely it will be on my thoughts about competition and not this topic…but because of this pressure my mind is in EXTRA analytical mode these days! Likely that is what prompted me bringing all this up now. :wink:

I have empathy (probably too much, that might be the problem)

I don’t get anything out of having someone looking out for my wellbeing, therefore, to be bonded to someone who wants me to look out for their wellbeing is just a burden to me.

The only reason I had to have an emotional bond with someone was for the external validation. After I got it, I completely lost interest in the relationship. Because of this I stopped doing relationship and that has worked really well for me in the past 6 years. I analyzed my feelings and my life got more efficient.

No one else feels this way? I did not expect everyone…but at least a few…at least someone who kinda can relate.

KMD is a self aware robot. that or an alien. many incarnated aliens want nothing to do with people. in all likelihood she is a highly advanced being here to anchor the energy of the ascension and she doesn’t even know it.

I just don’t think you have found anybody that you really love. You have never found love. I am sure many people do not find love in their life (maybe those who do are lucky I don’t know). I think what you are describing is that you tried the relationship route and didn’t like it based on what you had to give up and what you gained (pros and cons analytical mode). I think when you meet the right person, you are not burdening yourself in taking care of them you actually want to and vice versa and you can’t really explain it (apply logic to it). That is called love. I am just throwing it out there.

True love = people who forgive you when they realize you are a pedo and/or have over 1000 AF points. Probably just your mom, and maybe pets.

Good post, makes sense, for me at least

overload. does not compute.

Once I saw a phrase that said:

“At the end of the day, the one who is alone is because he/she wants [it to be]”

So, this statement probably goes against your hypothesis.

In my personal opinion, and agreeing with what Isaiah said about brain and oxytocin, human brains are not the same and are not balanced the same way for each person, therefore differences will exists, even in the field of emotions and perceptions.

So, yeah, probably some people are prey of their own brains and will have a tendency for life to feel loneliness when in reality there is no such a thing (at least not at the actual level). However, there are people that DO face REAL loneliness, and that’s indubitable.

i like my mom cuz shes a revenue generator. my dad not so much.

No such thing as loneliness bro, believe me, happiness is a table for one.