JoeyDVivre Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Something is wrong with that. According to > Peterson’s, 627 applied and 622 were admitted to > Tougaloo. yeah…it’s also considered “minimally difficult - 99% of applicants were admitted.” makes you wonder what happened to the 5 that applied but didn’t get in. on the other hand, tougaloo is a pretty cool name. http://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/instvc.asp?inunid=8990
BSD - its the only finance designation that trumps CFA
misslee Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > love it, numi. totally agree with you on this. > > as a group (not to sound arrogant but myself > included) ivy league grads probably don’t care > enough to debate with people who have not gone > through the system and experienced for themselves > what an ivy league education is all about in an > effort to try and justify what that degree > symbolizes. it’s not just the degree or the > networking, but everything encompassed in those > four years (on average) that are spent on campus. > > > just to put it in context, it’s probably something > along the lines of how you (the general forum > audience) would feel if a CPA came up to you and > said “oh, the CFA- what’s taking you so long? i > banged mine out in 18 months… anyways, now that > i have my CPA, i’m considering trying out the CFA > exams… what do you think?” (no offense to CPAs). > I truly believe and i know that most of you agree > that unless you go through the entire process of > CFA program candidacy (altho i’ve just begun last > year), you have NO idea what that entails. > > ivy leaguers don’t just show up to classes and > receive a degree at the end of the four years > (harvard and brown excluded. lol. J/K) they work > initially to get into that school and then harder > once they are in. level of competition steps up, > then you gotta step it up a notch. > > > to answer the initial questions, altho no ivy > leaguer HAS to take the CFA exam, i’m sure many > do. it would also depend on whether you went to a > business/finance oriented school like Wharton or a > more liberal arts environment like Harvard. hi misslee, nicely stated. you pretty much expanded on all the points for which i was too lazy to write about. i know not everyone will be able to relate to what you’re saying, but it definitely makes sense.
Poppycock. Most ivy league grads are stupid and lazy like most grads from most places.
This sounds like a rationalization for not finishing the CFA program. Numi has been strangely silent about his level 2 performance.
i don’t think there’s anything strange about it, i mentioned in several earlier posts that i didn’t pass and it won’t change my life in any way. i don’t have any excuses or stories to tell about it, and my view on this never changed before i took the exam or after the results came out. besides, what is it to you (or anyone else)? you got something to say?
oh - I was away on the east coast for 3 weeks and didn’t check AF as much during that time. It means something to me because of the arrogance level you have displayed on these forums.
JDV, are you trying to say that Ivy Leaguers are just regular people? I think for the undergraduates that might be true, but for grad students, there is a big disparity there.
Danteshek Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > oh - I was away on the east coast for 3 weeks and > didn’t check AF as much during that time. It > means something to me because of the arrogance > level you have displayed on these forums. why do you consider it “strangely silent”? you never expressed an interest in my involvement in the CFA program, so why now? my view on the cfa program hasn’t changed since i took level 1. did you figure that many people in the biz don’t bother with the CFA because they don’t have time to study or they don’t need it? as i mentioned, nobody has ever asked me where my CFA charter is and i doubt that will ever happen. for what it’s worth, it’s well known that i only studied for CFA level II for about a month and i never felt great about my chances going into the exam anyway. show me where i proclaimed otherwise. but if it means anything to you, i’m glad it makes you feel like a champion for trying to take down someone who didn’t pass an exam. by the way, the only arrogance ever displayed is the one you constantly put forward about you and your background. i have never seen someone talk so highly about their middle-office reporting job in a small asset management firm and passing cfa level 1 the way you have, and it is almost laughable. seriously, “BEST asset management firm on the west coast”? who are you again? i don’t know how anyone can take you seriously.
Just know that there are plenty of people out there who don’t appreciate your attitude. What goes around comes around.
Danteshek Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just know that there are plenty of people out > there who don’t appreciate your attitude. > What goes around comes around. I don’t think my point was very complicated. I didn’t pass Level II, and I have no shame in talking about it. It doesn’t change my career trajectory, and I have no insecurities about it. I know you tried very hard to insult me just now, but insults only work when people care, and I don’t care. You, on the other hand, seem to think you’ve done something wonderful by passing Level I and your best attempt to “insult” someone is to talk about an exam they didn’t pass. For what it’s worth, we’re both in the same place in terms of the CFA charter progression, but the difference is that you think that passing Level I makes you some type of authority in the business, whereas I don’t care and neither does anyone else. But hey, if it makes you feel like a real winner, do what you gotta do. Bottom line is, the fact that you have to resort to such a petty jab says a lot about your character and your actual career development. If you’d done much of anything career-wise, you’d have more important things to worry about than an exam, much less whether someone else BESIDES yourself passed an exam.
I feel very good about what I’ve done in the past 2+ years since graduating, considering that my first job out was selling packaging and working in a warehouse. I also worked in retail in college even though I had everything paid for. Bottom line numi is that I am allergic to people like you.
misslee Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > ivy leaguers don’t just show up to classes and > receive a degree at the end of the four years > (harvard and brown excluded. lol. J/K) thanks for that I do think there is a preoccupation (curiosity?) with pedigree in general on these boards. I also agree with the notion that a star is a star anywhere. But, as been stated before, once you get further on in “real life” the most you might get is an eyebrow raise at your undergrad, and/or for professionals, graduate institutions. When you have less time to have personal accomplishments, professional or otherwise, things like pedigree might give you (or in some cases take away from) some self-esteem. Once you have gone out and accomplished things for yourself all this stuff falls away. Its just like money: people who have it dont care about yours, the people who don’t you probably aren’t trying to impress anyway. One last - if you are upset about the “unfairness” of BB selection programs when trying to get in this business, you are fighting the wrong fight.
Where does someone that drank and slept their way through a state school fit into all this?
Randall, LOL! How about slept and read books through a state school? 
numi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > HoldSideAnalyst Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > “For example, in medicine it really doesn’t > matter > > where you do your undergrad, just how you score > on > > your mcats.” > > > > My mother (Dr. HSA) used to be the chair of her > > hospital’s med school admissions committee and > I > > can tell you this is categorically false. > > Transcript is 1st, MCATs a distant 2nd, and > > undergrad institution absolutely matters. > > definitely agree with HSA. where you do your > undergrad degree almost always matters. > Yes an ivy league education will affect WHICH medical school you go to, but not WHETHER you can get into a medical school. Those med schools in the carribbean will take pretty much anyone and if you have a high MCAT score you can pretty much walk into those schools regardless of GPA or undergraduate institution. I’ve seen plenty of people from state schools with low GPAs go to carribb schools such as Ross and come back to NY to do rotations.
it’s not all about the salary. these institutions have been around for a long, long time and know how to teach. they have systems of ideals that are proven to work. for example: an economics or an engineering student has to be well-read and good at communication. also the peer group is very competitive. it’s a “big pond.”
Saks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > misslee Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > > ivy leaguers don’t just show up to classes and > > receive a degree at the end of the four years > > (harvard and brown excluded. lol. J/K) > > thanks for that > > I do think there is a preoccupation (curiosity?) > with pedigree in general on these boards. Pedigree has more to do with your ancestry than where you went to college. Ivys these days are accepting plenty of people with no pedigree at all.
Sorry, I was referring to educational pedigree.
i dont know… i wouldn’t want an ivy league degree. too much pressure. imagine you had an ivy league degree and during an interview you got beat out for a job by someone from bentley it would be like having a ferrari and hitting on chick only to watch her go home with some dude driving a civic.