From the article, references included in full text. “Myth #5: Your metabolism slows when you cut calories, so cutting calories doesn’t work. If this were true, starvation wouldn’t be possible. As you lose weight, you burn fewer calories. This is going to happen on every diet, and it’s true for everyone.82,84,95,96 Except for extreme circumstances, however, this is almost never enough to completely stop weight loss. In most cases, the drop in calorie burn is small, and only has a minor impact on your rate of weight loss.82 When obese people are forced to do hours of exercise and cut their calorie intake by 30%, they lost 123 pounds in 30 weeks. Their resting metabolic rates only dropped 504 calories per day over the normal drop caused by weighing less.97 In the Minnesota Starvation Study, people were forced to cut their calorie intake by 50% and walk 22 miles per week. After six months of straight dieting they lost 25% of their body weight. Their resting metabolic rates only dropped by about 225 calories per day. These people were also lean when they started dieting.98 There’s also no evidence that the decrease in your metabolic rate while dieting is enough to cause weight gain. It’s never happened in a single weight loss study in over 100 years. If it were going to, it would have happened by now. Your metabolism drops slightly when you lose weight, but that’s the price you pay for fat loss. It happens to everyone, and it’s something you can minimize with the right behaviors. Calories still count.”
has anyone tried metformin - not for diabetes but to change the way your body processes food?
You had some good information when you first showed up, but your reputation since is not at risk.
right… I forgot… of course all lipids must be converted to glucose before use. However, in starvation, I bet proteins and lipids are both converted. After a while, muscles and organs take a fatal beating (even if there is excess fat left) So, not the blood brain barrier, but I was on the right track with protien metabolism.
EDIT: from what I was just reading, you can die while still fat… but from malnutrition, not starvation. Damn you AF… I was going to get stuff done tonight!
You keep appealing to authority, but these “nutrition science” idiots have zero credibility. They have been wrong, over and over again, for decades. These are the same idiots you brought you “decrease animal fat and eat lots of healthy grains”, and then obesity exploded.
The people who go into this field aren’t even B-team, they are D-team. They do bad science for the media and the food industry, because nobody is funding real science.
And so I ask again, if it’s just a simple mathmatical equation, and everyone knows the equation, why isn’t it working?
This is not high level reasoning. Because they OVEREAT. I make no conclusions on WHY they overeat . And the “idiots” have nothing to do with it. You can make your own conclusion from every study ever done on the subject, but you won’t bother because it will conflict with your religion. If that is what you need to do to get through the day, so be it.
^ Yeah, since the beginning of science people have been clinging to theories, despite observations not agreeing with their theory. They boldly exclaim “you must have done the study wrong, do it again!”. Centuries later someone smart like me walks into the room and says, “hey dipshits, maybe your theory is wrong?”.
Ah, glad you finally realized the studies are accurate and your theories are wrong. I must say, I didn’t think you were capable of critical thinking.
That’s checkmate kid.
There are observations everywhere that don’t fit your theory, you have no explantion for this, you just say “beats me, they must be doing it wrong, because my theory must be right!”. You have to be able to explain why everyone is getting fatter despite your simple little theory on how to be thin.
Now it makes sense. You’re gaining weight. Sorry to hear that. Step away from the table. Next your going to tell us that there is no correlation between calories consumed per capita and obesity rates. Every study ever completed on the issue has confirmed calorie deficits cause weight loss. That’s observation. But, hey, denial is a powerful defense mechanism. At least you know you’re human.
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One big factor is presence of insulin. Eating sugar and carbs raises insulin levels, which in turn pushes your body to store more fat. Once you have a lot of insulin floating around in your body for years, you develop a resistance to insulin…diabetes.
http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/news-releases/year-2014/august/high-insulin.html
when you were endurance training did you also do any high intensity interval training or strength training? Mark Sisson’s theory is that endurance-only training doesn’t match our biological evolution so that type of training is ultimately detrimental to optimal gene expression. If your training includes lifting something really heavy and sprinting as fast as you can a few times a week, he argues you’d see better results (body composition-wise) than endurance-only training. I forget the exact science but it has to do with utilizing the body’s full complement of energy pathways in order to adapt an efficient fat burning mode.
i read some of the article then realized it was based on 1990s science (not literally) and was painting an incomplete picture. the science has evolved way past calories in/out when you’re talking about sustainable weight loss and lifelong health. Calories in/out are still very much part of the equation but overall health, body composition, longevity, etc* all depend on much more. Yes - you can lose weight over a period of a couple months eating whatever you want by limiting calories, my only point is that maintaining your ideal body composition over the long term depends on much more.
EDIT: add to the list mood, adequacy of sleep, cognitive function, athletic durability, resistance to infectious disease. The list of things dependent on the TYPES of food you eat is literally a mile long and getting longer every day. Science finally realizes that the grain/sugar based standard American diet (including the RECOMMENDED american diet which is high in granis) is horrible and people are catching on.
I dont’ think anyone is arguing that just limiting your caloric intake is a long-term solution to healthy living (maybe Ghibli is, but I generally ignore his posts). OP was asking if it’s possible for him to drop 20 pounds (maybe it was 30) in few months without exercising. The answer to that question is an undisputable yes.
What I’ve learned losing weight by tracking what I eat and targeting a specific weekly calorie deficit is that I can eat a heck of a lot of broccoli and still have plenty of calories left for the rest of the day, but if I grab a donut from the box that some asshat brought into the office, I’m not going to get to eat much more for the rest of the day and I’m going to be hungry. While that should be common sense and it second nature to you, it really gets driven home when you see the numbers in the spreadsheet.
Clearly, having a diet that consists of nothing but 1,500 calaries of junk is not going to lead to long-term health. It probabaly won’t even lead to short-term weight loss because it’s pretty much impossible to not be hungry if all you’re eating is high calorie junk and you’ll end up breaking after a few days.
A) I liked you better when you were dead.
B) You’re still an idiot.
C) Have a nice day.
@Higgs - how are you tracking your food intake? Are you using an app on the phone? A website? Pencil & paper?
I’m with Hig.
(On all points in the post, but especially the parts in the middle.)
I created a pretty simple Excel spreadsheet. I’d send you a copy but one of my kids stepped on the external drive where I keep it (along with all my movies, pictures, and music) and I can’t access anything on the drive. On a daily basis, it tracks calories consumed, estimated calories burned just by being alive (I use an online resting metabolic rate calculator for that) and estimated calories burned through exercise).
Ahh, the lovely Americans. So nice to be back! I think all that grain syrup and grain oil screws up one’s disposition.
To further illustrate the stupidity of “but it’s just calories in calories out” – a smart guy once pointed out this is like saying “more people went into a room than came out”. Uhh okay, but that tells us nothing! Why? What is going on inside that dark room? Are they dead inside there? How can more keep cramming in with no apparent limit? Why don’t they just come out? It’s a black box in there, what’s happening? Nobody knows, but the dummies just keep chanting “but more came in than went out, obviously some need to come out, come out dammit!!”. People who say this have nothing of value to offer.
The dark room is evolution/biochemistry, and it’s too fucking complicated for some primates to understand.