Like I mentioned before, you may be a unique snowflake. However, that’s my view of the market’s view of brokers.
you can also stay and morgan and pursue a CFP in case you want to go that route. MBA is expensive and if you are doing well at morgan there may not be a reason to leave. brand name is strong regardless, even if you aren’t working at 270 park.
I have one more question… I figure that you are all very established, so they say to mimic those that have succeeded to try to get the same results. Those of you that have gave me your insight, what do you do, where did you go to school, and what route did you take? From your advice, it sounds like your all tier 1.
Danny Boy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A broker isn’t finance, as much as they want to > sound like they are. They are stock pushers, cold > callers, or extremely successful relationship > managers (no real in-between… you either make a > shit-ton or you hate your job & life within 3 > years). Saying a broker is in finance is like > saying a pharmaceutical salesperson is a doctor. > They’re not practicing medicine, they’re pushing > product. Doesn’t mean they can’t make good money > though… Very strong opinion just on hearsay!
broker is a very very very broad term
Iginla2010 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Very strong opinion just on hearsay! Do you have an opinion on brokers or just an opinion on opinions? Do you disagree that’s the general finance community view on brokers? If so, which parts do you disagree on? That’s how you add value to a conversation!
Why is everyone so angry on this forum. Isn’t this supposed to be a place where peers in the industry come together for advice and discussion. Either some of you are just not happy, maybe you are scared to give advice to peers and competition, or maybe you just don’t really know much outside your normal comfort box. Regardless, it’s a shame my first post while joining this forum was litterlly spit on by so many people. Good luck to all of you who answered my question with such strong critique. I’m sure you will all be very healthy, wealthy, and successfull!
Danny Boy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Iginla2010 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Very strong opinion just on hearsay! > > Do you have an opinion on brokers or just an > opinion on opinions? Do you disagree that’s the > general finance community view on brokers? If so, > which parts do you disagree on? > > That’s how you add value to a conversation! I don’t post only on hearsay. I don’t think it adds value and I would suggest you do the same.
AnalystAlan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why is everyone so angry on this forum. Isn’t this supposed to be a place where peers in the industry come together for advice and discussion. Either some of you are just not happy, maybe you are scared to give advice to peers and competition, or maybe you just don’t really know much outside your normal comfort box. It’s a combination of all of that and more - plus, well, have you ever dealt with the CFAI? They’ll send anyone into a qqqbee tailspin. Welcome.
Hahaha this thread is hilarious. Philly kid - there are tons of posts just like this, you happened to get roughed up a little more than some of the others. BUT, finance can be a tough environment, so this probably will benefit you long-run if you work hard to get there. You’ve gotten some good advice already - here’s what I would say you should do to pursue your one and only dream: 1) Keep up that passion, continue to learn as much about the markets as you can 2) NETWORK - try to get in touch with people that do what you want to do - you’re geographically constrained but buy a dude a philly cheesesteak and keep plugging away - your best bet will be to find anybody who does what you want to do, in your company, and in your city, and find out how they got to where they are and what advice they might have - don’t expect a job immediately, but this is how you’ll build your contact network - be memorable as driven, capable, and somebody they would want to hire. Don’t know if this will be possible, but that’s the route I took and I felt like it made it easier. 3) Do the CFA if you have time and aren’t willing to move or can’t take time off/get into a top MBA or an MBA with a great local recruiting presence in AM. For some jobs, it’s just a requirement - it also demonstrates interest and to an extent ability to learn stuff/a fundamental knowledge of finance. One thing - you said you can’t move because of friends and family - that’s strike 4 - if you want a role like this you have to be willing to go hard and do what it takes, if you’re not willing to leave mommy and daddy and jimmy and johnny, this might be difficult for you - you’ll have to be more flexible than that to get a shot guy. Good luck, and filter through the comedic attacks on you to take the actual advice, and then execute.
There’s nothing malicious when giving advice or opinions that is hard to hear if those are accurate opinions. If I asked what are my chances of being an astronaut then I’d expect pretty harsh responses.
Well, the people were certainly pretty angry, but some of the underlying questions were actually pretty legitimate, though indirect. Especially: 1) Why do you want to do ER? 2) Why should someone hire you? Isn’t it also useful to know how some (but not all) people candidly perceive your current occupation? Now you know that you might have to skillfully dispel these preconceptions when applying for jobs. So, I think this stuff was actually pretty useful, even if people were not necessarily trying to be useful.
Jcole, thats great advice. Thank you. Your points are very valid. See guys, not that hard to add value to the conversation is it?
How bad do you want to get into finance? Scale of 1 to 10
Ohai, you are right. It just seems that some people comunicate their opinion in a rather malicious way. I want to do ER because when I research, sit down with a cup of coffee, and really use my brain for it, I have fun. Hours upon hours that I put in, I’m motivated. It’s like those times as a 5 year old when your playing Nintendo and can’t wait to get to the next level. That is the feeling I get when I get into my zone. Someone should hire me because of the passion I have. Just because you are an ivy grad doesn’t mean you can be god, or even good. Many people tell me the connections are far more valuable than a degree from an ivy. Regardless, I very much respect them all, unless their attidude negates it. I think it really does come down to passion. If I want it, willing to do whatever your company needs, and I have decent experience for my age, why not give me a chance. I’m not expecting 100K. I’m asking for a chance for them to let me prove that I can do it. Let me earn my pay, my bonus, and most importantly, my respect.
SuperiorReturn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How bad do you want to get into finance? > Scale of 1 to 10 I consider myself to be in finance already, even though some conisder financial advisors (brokers) not to be. On a scale of 1 to 10, I would say 9. I would move to NYC if it was a 10. So 9 seems more appropriate.
AnalystAlan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ohai, you are right. It just seems that some > people comunicate their opinion in a rather > malicious way. > > I want to do ER because when I research, sit down > with a cup of coffee, and really use my brain for > it, I have fun. Hours upon hours that I put in, > I’m motivated. It’s like those times as a 5 year > old when your playing Nintendo and can’t wait to > get to the next level. That is the feeling I get > when I get into my zone. > > Someone should hire me because of the passion I > have. Just because you are an ivy grad doesn’t > mean you can be god, or even good. Many people > tell me the connections are far more valuable than > a degree from an ivy. Regardless, I very much > respect them all, unless their attidude negates > it. I think it really does come down to passion. > If I want it, willing to do whatever your company > needs, and I have decent experience for my age, > why not give me a chance. I’m not expecting 100K. > I’m asking for a chance for them to let me prove > that I can do it. Let me earn my pay, my bonus, > and most importantly, my respect. youre fired.
Funny, are you HR of analyst forum? Due to your stupid comment and English, you are fired.
Not alot happening in PHI other then a wicked hot hockey team Here’s the non executive roles on the jobline since you are in a big shop right now, can you leverage that into informational interviews? Performance Analyst Brinker Capital, Inc. - US - PA - King of Prussia Associate Research Analyst Snow Capital Management - US - PA - Sewickley Investment Analyst The William Penn Foundation - US - PA - Philadelphia Quantitative Research Analyst Persimmon Capital Management, LP - US - PA - Blue Bell Investment Fund Operations Analyst Franklin Square Capital Partners - US - PA - Philadelphia Secondary Analyst Hamilton Lane - US - PA - Bala Cynwyd Business Analyst BNY Mellon Asset Management - US - PA - Pittsburgh Analyst - Fund Investment Team Hamilton Lane - US - PA - Bala Cynwyd Analyst - Private Equity Hirtle Callaghan & Co., LLC. - US - PA - Conshohocken
how bout in happy valley mane?