As a Giants fan, I would think you’d be more worried about the entire Giants WR lineup going down in a single game. FWIW, that totally destroyed my fantasy season since I had Beckham and his handcuffs. Just one of those years I guess.
i dont disagree he brings the mentality of a winner but to play devils advocate pretty sure the only championship TB12 ever won outside of the NFL is when he was riding the pine at michigan
Assuming Beckham comes back full-strength, I actually see it as a blessing. Eli is done and it’s time to get the next franchise QB. They might not end up at 1 or 2 in the draft, but they’re probably going to be no worse than 3rd or 4th and the Browns and Niners have shown that they suck at identifying QB talent. I know they drafted Webb last year to be the heir apparent, but they were expecting to be a contender this year, not being in a position to take one of the top QB’s in draft. Ideally, they’ll cut Eli after the season, spend his money on O-line, and let Webb get beat up next year while their next SB-winning QB learns from the sidelines for a year.
Belichick brought the winning tradition, having been DC for the Giants for 2 SB wins.
Jason Garrett’s got championship DNA in his blood. So does Tim Tebow.
Having championship DNA in one’s blood does not guarantee SB wins, but is a necessary ingredient.
Right, but he was under Parcells who, I believe, did not have a “winning tradition” until BB became DC. This theory gets convoluted quickly.
There will always be exceptions and the theory is more relevant now that we have 51 SB’s to draw on. If you look at the last 15 or 20 SB winners, there are only a few that don’t have a direct link to a winning tradition either as a team or at one of the key positions within the organization (QB, HC, GM, or owner). Even in those exceptions, the teams generally had future HOF’ers at one of those key positions to help them breakthrough.
So basically you’re saying that in order to win, a team must have quality players. Is that right?
Sounds very Edupristine to me.
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Not just quality players, players (or other key members of the team) with a history of winning. Honestly, look at the last 20 SB winners:
NE - already discussed
Denver - Both Manning and Elway prior SB winning QB’s
NE
Seattle - Pete Carroll national championships at USC
Baltimore - Won SB before with same owner
NYG - Previous SB wins
Packers - GM had prior SB win
Saints - No real history of winning. An exception that was able to breakthrough because of Drew Brees
Steelers - Multiple prior SB wins
NYG - Previous SB wins
Colts - No relevant history of winning unless you count Bill Polian’s Greg Cup. An exception that broke through because of Peyton Manning.
Steelers - Multiple prior SB wins
NE
NE
Tampa - The ultimate exception, not a hint of a winning tradition anywhere to be found
NE
Baltimore - The other ultimate exception
St. Louis - Another exception that broke through because of a future HOF QB.
Denver - Prior SB win
Denver - No history of winning. Broke through with a future HOF QB.
This isn’t rocket science people. With rare exception, winners continue to win and losers continue to lose.
What about dem panthers
What about them?
they da best?
Best at what?
at issuing fatwas
What are fatwas?
Everything bolded is either admitted by you to be an exception (I love how there are two “ultimate” exceptions btw), or just tenuous at best. The Steelers and Giants won Super Bowls in the modern era because they share the same name with teams who won in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s? Come on.
Sorry Higgs. Gotta agree with LTJ here.
Your premise is “Winners continue to win. Unless they’ve never won before–then they win only if they’re really good (like Peyton Manning). Or even if they’re not really good, they can still win (like the 2000 Ravens). Then they become a winner. And then they keep winning.”
It seems like you keep expanding the definition until you’ve basically included everybody.
So ~1/3 of the league accounts for all the superbowl wins in the past 20 years. For a league that prides itself on parity (and I believe they do a good job of it overall) it’s interesting to see how few teams have gone all the way in the last two decades.
Yeah, the NFC at least is usually up for grabs, but the AFC is hilarious if you actually sort it out by QB:
Going backwards to 2001, Super Bowl appearances go:
Brady, Manning, Brady, Manning, FLACCO, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Brady, Brady, GANNON, Brady
So in 16 years you got two guys who weren’t part of the club.
(I’ve definitely already made this post in this topic but I enjoy doing it because, well, you can guess)