Muddahudda Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I pay. It’s a male pride & gene thing. I hunt. I > provide. Ug ug ug. I will pull you by your hair > back to my cave afterwards mind. > > But I always pay. First date, last date, middle > date. And I always tip well too (as long as they > are not a-holes). All real men do. I’m not nice, I > just have a pair of cojones, a wallet and some > self-respect. Buying a meal is not throwing money > at women. It’s 2-3x a normal night out (sometimes > less). If you don’t like her enough to have food > and potentially some chig a chig, then dump > her/don’t invite her out. Man up you bums. > > The only caveat to this is when you are at college > and still poor. I could never afford to eat at a > restaurant then and so I never went (maybe 3 times > all in). But who needs food when you have alcohol > and easy women in abundance? Cosign all the way on this. I really can’t believe the amount of guys who would let a woman pay a dime out of her pocket on a date - that’s unbelievable to me.* *All my dates were “real life” dates of girls I’d met not on a computer (bars, supermarkets, the street), so perhaps the new age Internet rules are lost on me, and if that’s how it’s done these days, apologies.
skillionaire Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Muddahudda Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I pay. It’s a male pride & gene thing. I hunt. > I > > provide. Ug ug ug. I will pull you by your hair > > back to my cave afterwards mind. > > > > But I always pay. First date, last date, middle > > date. And I always tip well too (as long as > they > > are not a-holes). All real men do. I’m not nice, > I > > just have a pair of cojones, a wallet and some > > self-respect. Buying a meal is not throwing > money > > at women. It’s 2-3x a normal night out > (sometimes > > less). If you don’t like her enough to have > food > > and potentially some chig a chig, then dump > > her/don’t invite her out. Man up you bums. > > > > The only caveat to this is when you are at > college > > and still poor. I could never afford to eat at > a > > restaurant then and so I never went (maybe 3 > times > > all in). But who needs food when you have > alcohol > > and easy women in abundance? > > > Cosign all the way on this. > > I really can’t believe the amount of guys who > would let a woman pay a dime out of her pocket on > a date - that’s unbelievable to me.* > > *All my dates were “real life” dates of girls I’d > met not on a computer (bars, supermarkets, the > street), so perhaps the new age Internet rules are > lost on me, and if that’s how it’s done these > days, apologies. Hell yea! Thank you. Two exceptions to the man paying: 1. If the man is broke 2. If the woman asked the man out - woman should pay. But then this can be a circular argument for some, and by some I mean me, because I would only ask a man that I respect… in which money would not be an issue.
Ocean Mist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > skillionaire Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Muddahudda Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > I pay. It’s a male pride & gene thing. I > hunt. > > I > > > provide. Ug ug ug. I will pull you by your > hair > > > back to my cave afterwards mind. > > > > > > But I always pay. First date, last date, > middle > > > date. And I always tip well too (as long as > > they > > > are not a-holes). All real men do. I’m not > nice, > > I > > > just have a pair of cojones, a wallet and > some > > > self-respect. Buying a meal is not throwing > > money > > > at women. It’s 2-3x a normal night out > > (sometimes > > > less). If you don’t like her enough to have > > food > > > and potentially some chig a chig, then dump > > > her/don’t invite her out. Man up you bums. > > > > > > The only caveat to this is when you are at > > college > > > and still poor. I could never afford to eat > at > > a > > > restaurant then and so I never went (maybe 3 > > times > > > all in). But who needs food when you have > > alcohol > > > and easy women in abundance? > > > > > > Cosign all the way on this. > > > > I really can’t believe the amount of guys who > > would let a woman pay a dime out of her pocket > on > > a date - that’s unbelievable to me.* > > > > *All my dates were “real life” dates of girls > I’d > > met not on a computer (bars, supermarkets, the > > street), so perhaps the new age Internet rules > are > > lost on me, and if that’s how it’s done these > > days, apologies. > > Hell yea! Thank you. > > Two exceptions to the man paying: > 1. If the man is broke > 2. If the woman asked the man out - woman should > pay. But then this can be a circular argument for > some, and by some I mean me, because I would only > ask a man that I respect… in which money would > not be an issue. Are you saying you only respect men with money 
^Yes. I’m a golddigger… NOT. If I had myself a sugardaddy, what would I be doing on a CFA forum? I would be out spending all the money on shopping and stuff. Haha, nah. I actually have myself a real man that is not rich. Always paid in the beginning (financial situation has changed so now I pay all the time). It’s not about the money. It’s about generosity and how much you’re willing to sacrifice for the other person. Plus, I see this as an investment. I pay temporarily now, and in exchange, he pays for a lifetime. I brainwashed him completely, but hey, I’m totally worth it! 
Guys shouldn’t never offer to pay, just grab the freakin check and bust out a big wad of cash/AMEX Black and pay without saying anything. My last two dates went like this… 1) Me and a friend hitup a restaurant to have dinner, we chatted two girls at the bar. We each got our own tables but invited them over to our table. Everybody was flirting and me and my friend each had our own pick. I was pretty much texting/gchatting the whole time to setup other dates if nothing happened with these girls. When the check came I just grabbed the bill and kept on texting on my phone. Girls didn’t say anything and I didn’t say anything. We got invited back to their apartment for some wine and one of the girls (not my target) tried to start making out with me. My friend banged my target. 2) Catch up with a girl that I had knew through friends of friends (contacted her through facebook). We always chatted when we go out in a group and have mutual attraction with each other but nothing happened. We went to a coffee shop to just catchup. I already had my coffee but she was expecting me to get something and pay for her coffee & muffin, so when we were ording and I told them “i’m good” I noticed she sharply turned her head so I quick said “actually I heard the blah is good here, so i’ll try one” and busted out my wallet and got in front of her implying that I got everything. We sat there talking for about 5hrs. I don’t think she would of gave me 5hrs of attention if she had to pay for herself. So the key is, if she IS NOT attracted to you, trying to bribe her with dinner to get her to like you isn’t going to win you any points, but if she is attracted to you if you don’t pay for her she is going to think your poor, or even worse, cheap.
^LOL!!!
Its really just prostitution with a decent meal thrown in.
ASSet_MANagement Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its really just prostitution with a decent meal > thrown in. Nothing in life is free.
Ocean Mist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ^Yes. I’m a golddigger… > > NOT. I ain’t saying youse a golddigger…but you ain’t messing with no broke broke…
skillionaire Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ASSet_MANagement Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Its really just prostitution with a decent meal > > thrown in. > > Nothing in life is free. I digress…oxygen.
marcus phoenix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > skillionaire Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ASSet_MANagement Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Its really just prostitution with a decent > meal > > > thrown in. > > > > Nothing in life is free. > > > I digress…oxygen. In order to use oxygen, your respiratory system needs to burn calories…“go fish”.
The non target wants me, has texted me each day for the next 3 days trying to set something up. I never replied. Would have replied if it was the target (not I thought I was going to get the target when we had dinner).
Oh to be single today in the online world.
BiPolarBoyBoston Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So the key is, if she IS NOT attracted to you, > trying to bribe her with dinner to get her to like > you isn’t going to win you any points, but if she > is attracted to you if you don’t pay for her she > is going to think your poor, or even worse, cheap. This is the best analysis in the thread but still falls a little short. If she is attracted to you, it doesn’t matter whether you take her to dinner or not. If your execution is solid and you don’t mess anything up, you’ll get play whether you spend $0.10 on her or $100.00. Taking her to dinner is never a necessary step.
be sure to at least pay for drinks, it pays off later
bromion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BiPolarBoyBoston Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > So the key is, if she IS NOT attracted to you, > > trying to bribe her with dinner to get her to > like > > you isn’t going to win you any points, but if > she > > is attracted to you if you don’t pay for her > she > > is going to think your poor, or even worse, > cheap. > > This is the best analysis in the thread but still > falls a little short. If she is attracted to you, > it doesn’t matter whether you take her to dinner > or not. If your execution is solid and you don’t > mess anything up, you’ll get play whether you > spend $0.10 on her or $100.00. Taking her to > dinner is never a necessary step. A lot of time if you meet somebody lets say at a bar or friends of friends and there is attraction and you get a phone number and setup a date the girl is still isn’t ready to sleep with you, they’re thinking like “well he’s funny but he’s not as tall as i wanted” but they are still willing to give you a chance. you do not want to be dinged for being cheap especially being cheap in front of her friends. If the girl is massively attracted to you, i.e. if your Brad Pitt then you don’t have to pay for anything, just go at it.
BiPolarBoyBoston Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Guys shouldn’t never offer to pay, just grab the > freakin check and bust out a big wad of cash/AMEX > Black and pay without saying anything. > > My last two dates went like this… > > 1) Me and a friend hitup a restaurant to have > dinner, we chatted two girls at the bar. We each > got our own tables but invited them over to our > table. Everybody was flirting and me and my friend > each had our own pick. I was pretty much > texting/gchatting the whole time to setup other > dates if nothing happened with these girls. When > the check came I just grabbed the bill and kept on > texting on my phone. Girls didn’t say anything and > I didn’t say anything. We got invited back to > their apartment for some wine and one of the girls > (not my target) tried to start making out with me. > My friend banged my target. > > 2) Catch up with a girl that I had knew through > friends of friends (contacted her through > facebook). We always chatted when we go out in a > group and have mutual attraction with each other > but nothing happened. We went to a coffee shop to > just catchup. I already had my coffee but she was > expecting me to get something and pay for her > coffee & muffin, so when we were ording and I told > them “i’m good” I noticed she sharply turned her > head so I quick said “actually I heard the blah is > good here, so i’ll try one” and busted out my > wallet and got in front of her implying that I got > everything. We sat there talking for about 5hrs. I > don’t think she would of gave me 5hrs of attention > if she had to pay for herself. > > So the key is, if she IS NOT attracted to you, > trying to bribe her with dinner to get her to like > you isn’t going to win you any points, but if she > is attracted to you if you don’t pay for her she > is going to think your poor, or even worse, cheap. So both times you paid, both times you didn’t get what you wanted. Yet your advocating for paying? Why? Get your buddy on this board, he’s the one that got a free meal on your dime and banged the girl you wanted. He should be giving the advice.
^ valid point. Alright boys lets hear some stories where you meet some amazing girls and had serious relationship or build an emotional connection which was helped by the fact you did not pay for anything (exclude one-night stands). The average Joe doesn’t have this much game.
I typically avoid meeting people at bars, but out of coincidence I met my current gf at a bar (we were actually at a similar party the week before too but didn’t realize it). There wasn’t much opportunity to pay for anything, but I never bought her a drink if that counts. I was actually there with two lesbian girls I sorta knew. The girl that is now my girlfriend and her friend were hitting on me, but I ignored them because I was having fun with the people I came with. At the end of the night the lesbian’s left, and I went and talked to the girl who ended up to be my gf, and we ended up making out in about 20 minutes. Just as I was making out with her, one of the lesbian’s came back because she forgot the money I was holding on to for her (she had no pockets). I went home with the lesbians the next night. No good stories from that though, couldn’t convince them to become meat eaters. 
So when the 2nd time you guys meetup after the bar, what did you do? Did you pay?