so what the new “high” “FORECAST” now?
www.peakoil.net this is what is really happening. all the rest of the “news” are the puppets dancing poorly.
Dang, I wish those pot-smoking hippie protesters in 2003 and 2004 were actually right about “blood for oil.” I’m at the end of my rope with fuel prices (costs me almost $70 to fill up my Volvo). How annoying is this? If this were at any point in history, the world’s sole superpower would waltz into some of these countries (Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Venezuela, “Canadia”) and just take their oil. Now the world has this phoney “ethic” where oppression, war and dictatorships are fine, so long as they are solely political or religious tyrannies and pestilence and are not economic- or national interest-related.
No kidding…we have the most powerful army in the history of teh world sitting right next door and we ask him to sell us more oil. And he says no. WTF?
haha, Joey. I can’t tell if you’re being ironic or not, but that’s exactly how I feel. Is it wrong? Yeah, I admit it’s probably an unethical emotion, but seriously, what the heck? Didn’t we just save these nations (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait) not even 20 years ago from being wiped from the face of the earth by Saddam Hussein? Do we not personally finance the existence of 10,000 Saudi palaces?
Fact of the matter all OPEC countries are pumping as high as they can, and they are making lots of money that way too. It’s no longer a controlled supply issue what’s going on… a new economic paradigm is setting in, called China, India, weak dollar, over-extended refineries, etc. Also, what can the U.S. army really do when it is already having trouble in Iraq, chasing Osama, etc., and not succeeding? The U.S. also knows of the threat of Hizbullah in Lebanon, and it can’t do anything. U.S. army is not good at chasing villains door to door! Things have changed and we just have to live with it, unfortunately.
Dreary, given that Saudi Arabia’s military IS the U.S. military, I highly doubt the U.S. would have any trouble running roughshod through Saudia Arabia in 48 hours. Iraq was one of the top 5 or 6 militaries on earth in 2003 and was seized in–what–2 weeks? Again, if this were at any other time in history, the U.S. would have gone into Iraq, destroyed the place, set up a perimter around the oil fields and created $.50/per gallon gas prices. Would that be ethical? Probably not, although one could argue that the business of a nation’s leaders is to seek what’s in the best interest of their nation, altruism notwithstanding. But since World War II, we feel like it’s our business to nation-build.
kkent Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > haha, Joey. I can’t tell if you’re being ironic or > not, but that’s exactly how I feel. Is it wrong? > Yeah, I admit it’s probably an unethical emotion, > but seriously, what the heck? Didn’t we just save > these nations (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait) not even 20 > years ago from being wiped from the face of the > earth by Saddam Hussein? Do we not personally > finance the existence of 10,000 Saudi palaces? damn son, you need to read a history book.
You drive a volvo? SWEEEEET!!!
Agreed, if jungle law applies then yes we could do that, but not anymore! On a side note jungle law ain’t bad sometimes! Think what you can do to a proctor after he tells you to put down your pencil. > Iraq was one of the top 5 or 6 militaries on earth in 2003 and was seized in–what–2 weeks? Don’t believe the military hype. Iraq was as weak a nation as any in that area. Bush and company at the time had to justify what they had to do.
kkent Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dreary, given that Saudi Arabia’s military IS the > U.S. military, I highly doubt the U.S. would have > any trouble running roughshod through Saudia > Arabia in 48 hours. Iraq was one of the top 5 or 6 > militaries on earth in 2003 and was seized > in–what–2 weeks? Again, if this were at any > other time in history, the U.S. would have gone > into Iraq, destroyed the place, set up a perimter > around the oil fields and created $.50/per gallon > gas prices. Would that be ethical? Probably not, > although one could argue that the business of a > nation’s leaders is to seek what’s in the best > interest of their nation, altruism > notwithstanding. But since World War II, we feel > like it’s our business to nation-build. you guys ran ruff shod over iraq in about two weeks, but five years from then where has that got you? its funny that guys that talk like you are usually the weakest and probably never been in something as rough as a fistfight. honestly if you feel that way you should join the marines. they are without exageration some of the baddest mofos on the planet, they wont take me into the rotc program because im not an american citizen but im sure they’d take you. don’t worry tho, your finance background would get you a nice cushy MOS behind a computer screen.
LMAO at Joey. kkent less CNN dude, and maybe more bbc or something dude. The people who run OPEC are some of the most educated and intelligent folk out there, why must they give in the Bush and US, so simply you can pay less to fill your tank? Most of the Saudi Family was educated at Cambridge/Oxford/Harvard/Princeton/Stanford, where they learned how to best serve their nation’s interests. Based on that OPEC pumps a certain supply to meet the world demand. It is not their job to make sure you pay less to fill up your volvo. Maybe instead of whining, you should find ways like OPEC did all those years with low Oil prices to deal with the issues at hand. For instance why the US can not yet create an efficient market for trading emissions, so coal can be better utilized. Or why the US is not following Iran’s/Canada’s/China’s lead in building and creating more Nuclear energy in the future. Or why everyone is so scared of LNG coming near the New York shoreline, even though Natural Gas prices are out of control in the region. Also if you really think that OPEC controlling supply is the solution, and if they flooded the market, prices would go down and be good “long term”. Then why does Bush not release US Oil Reserves? Or how about stopping to buy up reserves for just one month? P.S if you can find one intelligent US economist, who beleives releasing US Oil Reserves would solve the problem, I would be stunned, know why? Because they went to the same schools as those Saudi dudes and know that it won’t solve the problem long-term.
kkent, the US army is overstretched in Iraq and Afghanistan. And you’re suggesting that we take out the Saudi army and Air Force? Now, I think we have the military capability to neutralize their armed forces, but then what? Run in and grab the oil? Occupy the place? You might recall that THE TWO HOLIEST CITIES IN ISLAM ARE THERE (and the third is dominated - for good or ill - by Israel), and that THE KORAN SAYS THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO INFIDELS ON THE ARABIAN PENINSULA. Our presence in Kuwait (on the peninsula) after Gulf War I is one of the big Koranic justifications used by Al Qaeda, even though Kuwait is just the tiny northeastern segment of the place. And you want the army of a primarily christian and secular power there? How much gasoline do we want to throw on this flame? This act would have even moderate muslims signing up for jihad. Maybe Venezuela? At least we have more Spanish speakers in our armed forces, and the beaches are nice when we get there? (joke)
These guys are such pu$$ies. THE TWO HOLIEST CITIES IN ISLAM?! Cry me a river and let me gas up the Suburban…
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First of all, SeanC, I need to brush up on my history? Really? Interesting comment given that you failed to point out any material historical inaccuracy. Second of all, I’m not suggesting we invade Saudi Arabia. I’m suggesting that in a different era, it’s exactly what we would have done and it’s what pretty much every nation did that could before World War II, including the often noted “hyperpowers,” Persia, Rome, Great Britain, the Dutch, etc. I was just saying that the world–including the United States–has some pretty odd ethical beliefs. The U.N. sucks the testicles of dozen of tyrannies and theocracies, murderers and thieves. The U.S. says it wants to spread democracy but is more than happy to live with dictators who support their own interests and oppose un-friendly democracies. But somehow, it’s unethical to, for example, invade a nation and take its resources. They’re both wrong, but the world has evolved a nice sense of denile–hypocracy–for one and not the other. adehbone: “Maybe instead of whining, you should find ways like OPEC did all those years with low Oil prices to deal with the issues at hand.” You’re right! Why don’t I get off my lazy ass and solve the world’s oil crisis! I’m off!
kkent, I would like to see you march into Fort McMurray, let alone Venezuela or the Middle East demaning oil for your Yuppiemobile. As well, what are you doing driving a socialist state vehicle. What’s next, Buddhism ??
Good Lord? Can people read? I like how the Canadians are the most offended. I think I’m going to go watch South Park.
Yeah, I just read you saying that your country should invade my country, which I thought was a heathnous socialist soddom and gommarah land to get our oil & gas and probably our sexy french girls…
CFA_Halifax Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah, I just read you saying that your country > should invade my country, which I thought was a > heathnous socialist soddom and gommarah land to > get our oil & gas and probably our sexy french > girls… sexy french girls!!! You guys take the oil…I will take the girls!