http://nypost.com/2014/07/10/world-cup-imports-brazils-need-for-single-men/ Brazilian women say foreign fans have behaved well, and have displayed a more enlightened, less macho attitude than that of Brazilian guys. Moitinho, who along with three friends braved the bus for more than two hours to get to the Fan Fest from their home in a distant Rio suburb, said foreigners just have a je ne sais quoi that their Brazilian counterparts lack. “They’re handsome, sweet, humble and generous,” Moitinho said as her friends grabbed hold of the Italian’s hips to lead him in samba’s hallmark sway. “They respect women and don’t come on strong like Brazilian men, who just grab on to you and try to kiss you right away. They’re much more gentlemanly.” Catia Santiago, a 35-year-old single mother, agreed. “I’ve never had the money to travel, so I thought all men were like Brazilians — very fast, very aggressive,” Santiago said as she soaked up the rays on Copacabana beach. “Now I see that ‘gringos,’” as foreigners of all nationalities are known in Brazilian Portuguese, “aren’t like that at all,” she said, adding that the language barrier hadn’t proven a barrier at all. “I’m hooked.”
What a fking pointless idiotic article.
I feel yah Iheartmath! In fact, i actually beat you posting this article (see “Gents, shall we”). CVM, ftr, its not only single moms but i digress…
Brazilian Women chase bonanza of men
http://news.yahoo.com/brazilian-women-celebrate-wcup-bonanza-men-040336622.html
So, I take it you guys subscribe to the same newsletter?
Not only that she’s a twenty odd year old who in her own words ‘hunts for gringos’. Really, why the fuck would anyone listen to such a woman? Also, the article is so stupid it basically admits that the more than half of Brazilian women were absolutely turned of by the behaviour of foreigners.
Can’t expect much given the author is a former third rate fashion writer.
Or it was on Yahoo front page?
Well, there’s a wide variation based on class differences. Brazilian middle and upper class men tend to be “rico suave” indeed. They can be more machista than their foreign counterparts, but the younger generation of middle and upper class men are substantially less so than either 1) working class men, and 2) older generations.
The article mentioned that the woman had to commute in from the favela… my guess is that her choice of men are more gangsta than the foreigners flying in with enough spare cash lying around to pay the elevated airfares and hotel charges for Brazil during the Copa.
When I lived in Rio, the favela girls were hot to catch a gringo. There was this idea that a favela girl could get a gringo to fall in love with her and take her to a nice rich life away from Brazil. This did indeed happen sometimes, but many of the Brazilian women found themselves very lonely in other countries where the culture is colder.
However, middle and upper class women in Rio would generally avoid gringos, in part because they didn’t need that dream to solve their problems, and because a Brazilian woman with a gringo in Rio would be suspect of being either a prostitute or a girl hunting down a gringo to escape poverty. Middle and upper class women did not want that and so were fairly unapproachable unless you had friends in common to introduce you.
Of course, that also meant that the kinds of women that foreigners encountered in toursity areas tended to be “easy” or prostitutes, wheras regular brasileiras stayed away. This contributed a lot to the stereotype that Brazilian women are all slutty, and Brazilians abroad often have to fight this stereotype. The fact that Brazilians are more sensual and like to be traditionally masculine and feminine only seems to promote the stereotype, although it woudl be a pity if they stopped being that way just because much of the rest of the world misunderstands it.
Interstingly, in Sao Paulo, it’s different. Gringos can be very successful in Sao Paulo (and I tent to like Paulista women better anyway). Part of the reason is that Sao Paulo has very little to recommend it from a tourist perspective, and so foreigners in Sao Paulo are usually working there and/or more knowledgeable about Brazil and Brazilian customs. In my experience, Paulistas make better friends, though they are less bubbly than the more touristy parts of Brazil.
Where is that in the article?
The article says that there are nine men for every ten women, which is about the same as in NYC, another metropolis known for its lack of eligible bachelors.
What’s the attraction to Brazil, then?
It was a Yahoo article.
If you don’t know. You don’t need to know.
New Yorkers:
Brazilians:
Any other questions?
I wonder where those girls go where men “just grab on to you and try to kiss you right away”. No wonder they’re enchanted by whoever avoids any kind of rapist behavior.
I’m not even defending brazilians here, but two girls comparing cheery tourists to brazilian gropers may not be the most unbiased and well researched piece of news out there.
This is the New York Post. We read it for the lawls.
What would the Indian version say?
Higgmond’s picture post is fun, but not really a fair comparison. Nonetheless, the basic point is still correct. The average Brazilian woman in a bar is substantially more attractive than the average New York woman (of similar class and education) in a bar (and who is in turn more attractive than the average non-New-York american woman of similar background).
But here’s another data point for you:
Two days ago, I got home and my Brazilian girlfriend told me “I’m sorry honey, I’m just too tired today to make dinner for you, I hope you won’t hate me for it if I need to rest” (a day later it turns out she was coming down with the flu; she really DID need to rest).
For a guy who grew up around ardent American feminists in college and grad school, it was one of those “WTF, how lucky can I be to have a girlfriend who thinks like this” moments. Now, I don’t think that it’s a woman’s duty to cook for her man, but I will say that I sure love it when she does it. And the fact that she cared enough to apologise for it was amazingly sweet.
I hope you said, “Well, I guess you’ll have to make it up to me in other ways, then.”
Great point, When we went to Thailand, something akin to exactly what you described happened. We had the fortune of meeting middle-class well off thai’s through an underground poker club who later invited us to hang out with them. The women were cute, lovely and friendly and were buying us drinks and telling us interesting stories about Thailand but the moment a ‘farang’ came over they would become stiff and unfriendly.
It was bemusing to say the least and the ‘farangs’ were not particularly rude or aggressive. After a couple of incidents like this we asked them about it and they pretty much gave the reason you described in a more roundabout way.