That’s the dumbest poster ever. Probably made by a feminist . If they were both drunk and had sex, and the man is automatically charged with rape, that implies any woman can rape a man and get off scott free + get the man charged with rape??
^that’s exactly what it implies. Basically men have no rights in these types of situations. Now I’m not saying that in THIS case the guy isn’t deserving of punishment, but it’s crazy to think that a chick can just be like ‘no, i was drunk’ and then the guy is basically SOL
I was thinking of this exact poster when the thread was posted. I’m not saying the guy was innocent or guilty but I highly dislike the double standards in regards to equality; not just rape, but wage, social norms, domestic violence, etc.
Reminds me of one of my favorite Rita Rudner lines: “They’ve put warning labels on liquor. ‘Caution: Alcohol can be dangerous to pregnant women.’ Did you read that? That’s ironic. If it weren’t for alcohol, most women would never be that way.”
The whole “drunk means no consent” argument makes no sense. It basically implies that being drunk leaves you with no accountability.
You are totally accountable for your stupid drunk actions. Let’s say I get drunk, drive a car, and run over an old lady. I guess I was not control of my senses, too bad, old lady! I might as well take a bunch of illegal drugs while I’m at it. Oops, I was drunk - I couldn’t make rational decisions. Sorry FBI, you have no case now.
When you pick up a bottle, you are knowingly putting yourself in an intoxicated state, and you are still accountable for whatever you say or do. Arguing that intoxication removes your accountability is the same as saying drunken murder, assault, anti Jewish rants, even rape, should all be forgiven.
It’s different if a woman is unconscious after drinking - consent is not possible then. But drunken consent is still consent, and like any drunken action, comes with no less responsibility than non drunken actions.
by this standard though, a woman is putting herself at risk by getting drunk and is thus partly responsible if bad things happen to her? if she can’t make rational decisions, how could she not be partly responsible? as you are arguing against “drunk means no consent” you are effectively arguing in the realm of “drunk means consent”. in this case, we have no idea what the girl said or did as she can’t remember. her getting so drunk that she can’t defend herself with her own story in court is her fault. i think the judge had to treat this rape as different from one with no alcohol involved for this reason. while the law is there to protect you, it is only really there to protect you if you can convince a court of your side of the story. if you have no story, you’re sol.