The sun is shining, the sky is blue, grass is green, mattlikesanalysis shows up late to an argument and not only proves once again he has absolutely no understanding of the topic at hand and nothing meaningful to contribute, but he also manages to inject racist overtones into the discussion in a very awkward manner. Well done!
yeah, i just assumed that the general af population would be able to differentiate between hitler and the nazi regime. the MAN was successful in career and the MAN led an unsuccessful life. it has nothing to do with nazis. i could use manson as an example if he was a multibillionaire.
and sorry for not showing up on AF on the weekend JTLD. that shows you how i value my free time and how you value yours. also, talking about hitler is not racist. talking about the third reich is not racist. what have i said that’s racist. i haven’t even mentioned my opinion on any races whatsoever.
Calling Hitler successful is about one of the most racist things anyone could say; I’m not even Jewish and I take offense. You make mo34 look like Bill Clinton.
Mobius Striptease Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- you need to optimize > your argument under the constraints of the > prejudices of the audience, otherwise it fails aren’t analysts trained to be objective?
iheartiheartmath Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The sun is shining, the sky is blue, grass is > green, mattlikesanalysis shows up late to an > argument and not only proves once again he has > absolutely no understanding of the topic at hand > and nothing meaningful to contribute, but he also > manages to inject racist overtones into the > discussion in a very awkward manner. Well done! I actually think Matt grasps the topic well (better than you I might add). As mobius striptease said, he just delivered it with choice wording.
iheartiheartmath Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Calling Hitler successful is about one of the most > racist things anyone could say; I’m not even > Jewish and I take offense. You make mo34 look like > Bill Clinton. haha. to say that hitler didn’t have infinite wealth is plain stupid. you are personally defining career success by the $$$$$ (i.e. cash money you make). you also define life success by the $$$$$ you make. i am only playing to what you believe to be true. he went from 00000 to $$$$$ over his lifetime. he was the most wealthy man (in terms of what he started with and what he had) to ever live an unsuccessful life, ever. there’s no disputing that. he had full control over the power and wealth of the most powerful country in the mid-1900s and he wasn’t a king. that is why he is the best example.
going deeper into your analogy, Matt, I am not so sure how you can fully separate hitler’s “career sucess” as measured in money or power from the choices he made which led him to “live unsuccessful life”. he made his wealth by selling his book of hatred “mein kampf”, he rose to power by transforming his hatred in the book and making it a political agenda. there is no “hitler - the career-successful, wealthy dude” that later turned into a monster by sarting to follow some ideology. he followed this ideology from the start, it made him “successful” aka wealthy and powerful, and it led to his failure in life and as a human being. inseparable if you ask me
I don’t think MattLikesAnalysis was trying to somehow segregate the economic factors from other life factors that can define an individual’s “success.” I think he understood well that the underlying psychologies and values of Hitler were what motivated him to build a fruitful career for himself from the perspective of power and money…and ultimately leading to his own demise (and sadly the demise of many others that fell victim to his regime). MattLikesAnalysis’ specific commentary concerning money was playing off the strident and short-sighted premise that another forum poster put forth, namely that success is principally defined in terms of monetary accomplishment. Matt actually disagreed with that very notion, but used the premise of “success = money” combined with his example of Hitler to show, loosely speaking, that being successful has a lot less to do with what you do for yourself and a lot more to do with being able to impact humanity in a positive manner…and exactly how short-sighted it is to view success in life only with respect to financial achievement.
I hope for mattlikesanalysis’ sake that his boss is a) not Jewish and b) never finds out that one of his employees secretly considers Hitler to be the definition of success. mo34 and JOE2010–consider yourselves off the hook, we have a new racist in town.
wow, numi. how much do i have to pay you to become my personal AF re-poster. this has always been a problem of mine, i have a great imagination and i come up with pretty good analogies to represent my ideas, but sometimes i make too many assumptions that in my mind, are common assumptions, and it often leaves my ideas with some holes. it is also difficult to clarify what you are directly assessing on a thread with ~100 posts and various opinions and subtopics.
Thank you very much ozzie. I have just hidden posts from a select few low value posters. It’s sad how oblivious they are of their low self esteem shining through in their remarks while it is so obvious to the rest of us. ozzie123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > bhill020 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Is there some way to just block the folks who > > contribute zero meaningful content. Every > > sentence that I read from these idiots takes up > a > > moment of my life that I will not get back. > What > > a waste. > > > > Click on “hide posts from this user” next to their > username, that should do the trick.
iheartiheartmath Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope for mattlikesanalysis’ sake that his boss > is a) not Jewish and b) never finds out that one > of his employees secretly considers Hitler to be > the definition of success. mo34 and > JOE2010–consider yourselves off the hook, we have > a new racist in town. haha. i’ll have you know that i am caucasian (~20 identifiable countries of origin), native american (thus in turn asian 500+ years ago), and african-american. i’ve studied every classic religion available and directly associate myself with none of them yet take parts of all of them. i have very close friends hailing from Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Tanzania, Mumbai, Delhi, Norway and Taipei. On top of all that, I’m Canadian and yes, its true, compared to Americans, every Canadian is not racist.
I’m sure Hitler had friends in different countries too.
> I’m Canadian and yes, its true, compared to Americans, > every Canadian is not racist. That’s kinda self conflicting, granted nationality doesn’t equal race
cfagoal2: that was strictly a joke and a bad one. IHIHM: and that just shows how ignorant you are…hitler would have never befriended those of identifiable inferiority. just because he allied with the japanese doesn’t mean he liked them.
MattLikesAnalysis Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ust because he allied with the japanese doesn’t mean he liked them. Exactly.
exactly what? he used the japanese for strategic purposes? you do realize that an ally and a friend are quite different things right?
numi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don’t think MattLikesAnalysis was trying to > somehow segregate the economic factors from other > life factors that can define an individual’s > “success.” I think he understood well that the > underlying psychologies and values of Hitler were > what motivated him to build a fruitful career for > himself from the perspective of power and > money…and ultimately leading to his own demise > (and sadly the demise of many others that fell > victim to his regime). > > MattLikesAnalysis’ specific commentary concerning > money was playing off the strident and > short-sighted premise that another forum poster > put forth, namely that success is principally > defined in terms of monetary accomplishment. Matt > actually disagreed with that very notion, but used > the premise of “success = money” combined with his > example of Hitler to show, loosely speaking, that > being successful has a lot less to do with what > you do for yourself and a lot more to do with > being able to impact humanity in a positive > manner…and exactly how short-sighted it is to > view success in life only with respect to > financial achievement. fair enough although obviously what made hitler a failure of a human being is not the fact that all he cared for was wealth and money. i’m sure if you had a chance to ask him at the time he would have argued that he was doing his sh%t for humanity’s sake, in his own perverted understanding. he didn’t quit when he made millions, did he. so if you want to refute the narrow-minded definition of “success=money”, making example of hitler still doesn’t make much sense to me. so what - hitler was rich, and by that narrow-minded measure - “successful”, yet he was obviously a failure for all this other stuff he did. therefore, you can’t measure success by money only. is that your argument? i could also say that if hitler wasn’t trying that hard to impact humanity in his own sick ways, and had stayed focused on making that cash and spending it on lebenwurst and bier or whatever the hell he liked, he would have ended less of a failure by common measure. we just used hitler to convincingly support both sides of the argument. that’s what happens when you multiply by zero, FYI
Agree. I’m nominating the Hitler = Success argument for hands down the stupidest post of the year award.