West = fail
What happened to Monkey? Do we just have Chinese whispers now?
Yes, which is what the link I posted above describes and relates to the sexual neuroplasticity (rewiring) of the brain.
I think this is right and agree with former trader too. My theory is that there is a certain echelon of guys who just clean house all the time – i.e. if you are intelligent, charismatic and good-looking like George Clooney and Brad Pitt, the incremental benefit of being on the apps is probably pretty small. However, if you have some of these traits but not all, the dating apps definitely “surface” more of these men (and women) who might otherwise fly under the radar for one reason or another. The apps also help both sexes achieve one major positive outcome (in my view) – identifying who your matches are so you don’t waste your time barking up the wrong tree, so to speak.
Personally, thanks to the apps, I went from being too busy to date (i.e. no time to meet and mingle with people where the mutual interest level was totally unknown), to having a pretty awesome time week after week.
I found Tinder to be too much work. I pick up chicks naturally so don’t have an issue meeting people. The nice looking girls I met on tinder were some of the most socially awkward airhead duds I’ve ever met in my life.
Is this really news to anybody? Wow meeting chicks online means they aren’t that good at offline interactions …
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that whole 20/80 stuff is such BS. I am am not in the top 20% but really never had any issues getting laid and am sure id get plenty on tinder (even though tinder appears to be waning in popularity) that 20/80 stuff is just stuff loser red pillers quote to try and justify their strange tactics and make themselves feel better about why they dont get laid.
Its really not that hard guys. You can either be super good looking, which will get you laid, and you are either a genine person and girls will love you, or you can be a prick and you will still get laid. Youll likely have a ton of one night stands as the girls wont want to meet you again based on convos with my gfs friends, and they likely have no clue how to actually pleasure a woman due to having a string of one night stands but no sustained relationships where you have communication with a woman.
After that you can be not bad looking/decent looking. I consider myself to be in this group. Most people are in this group. You can either be a POS and you wont get laid because you arent attractive enough to pull on your looks alone and you have the personality of a pile of dog doo, or you can be a genuine person who is interested in them, can hold a conversation, isnt a socially awkward freak, and you will get laid plenty. Girls arent nearly as hung up on looks as guys, if you dont look bad and can offer fun conversation and are fun you will have no problem getting laid. This is the bulk of guys. Although it seems most of the guys in this group just like to gripe they arent pulling super models, they will be normal, attractive people just not some IG thot.
At the bottom there are really gross guys. This could be because you are really fat, terrible skin, no hygiene, bad luck genetically. At this point you better be hilarious or seriously consider making some life changes (if possible) to get yourself in to the above group. But again the BULK of people you will see will be in this middle group that should be able to get laid with a ounce of personality and actually caring about what you look like at all. Most guys dress like crap, are crappy, and then whine they cant get laid. Like try a little bit, its not that bad. Also if you are in the middle group, or even the top group, prolonged relationships will yield far more sex. That doesnt mean dating but hookup buddies even do the trick. The key there is your personality has to warrant someone not wanting to curb stomp you every time they see you. Its pretty simply summed up in the like “dont be a dick”
60x to 50x. damn you fake taxi!!! and the cheating hand
I agree exactly with what you’re saying. I was referring to this comment in particular. the 20/80 rule applies to the top echelon of people. The ones that everyone wants to bang.
The bottom tier - no one touches. They hook up amongst themselves. The middle tier aspires to bang the top tier, and there is some cross-tier banging every so often, but not regular. top tier bangs top tier, moves down to middle tier when bad decisions (usually alcohol related) are made.
Moving between tiers is what you’re describing. Takes self awareness and commitment to bettering yourself. Not for the lazy or faint of heart. Most people don’t do it and that’s why you have many people making excuses like ‘hot girls are all air heads’ or all good looking guys are douchebags.
Its likely due to people generally having a higher view of themselves than they really are. The amount of gross neckbeards online who comment about average looking celebs being gross makes me laugh, like that girl wouldnt even look in your direction bro you think she cares you dont think she is as hot as some other girl?
Not that i dont like the familiar topic of 20/80, this thread is going in the wrong direction. I think this study is pertaining to sex life among those in a relationship.
It makes sense. It was gorgeous out Sunday so me and the lady went out for a long walk with some stops to get coffee and lunch outside along the way. You go sit next to any couple and invariably find they’re both on their phones for the bulk of their time together. Obviously anecdotal but the dude we were sitting next to didn’t speak to his girl the entire time we were there, just had his face in his phone. Wouldn’t be shocked if the girl had an Instragram pic up of their time showcasing how fun it was. Didn’t look fun to me.
I’ve been trying really hard to separate myself from phones and work once I’m home. I find that the more time I spend on a screen the more unhappy I am and that clearly carries over into the relationship. At least on a weekend it’s nice to just toss the thing on a bed stand and go out into the world “off the grid”.
Welcome to the dark side…
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Lol you are an inspiration in that regard, no doubt.
Probably a smaller but more vocal or widely recognized sub section. Probably fairly localized.
Long live the flip phone, king of all phones
only drug dealers and spies have flip phones - who be blackswan
^ Isn’t it obvious that he’s a drug-dealing spy?