And oh i’m in a dilemma whether France/US/etc should retaliate.
I feel like they are all over the place like cockroaches.
It isn’t like you can bomb one country and be over and done with it and gone, all these soldiers are gone.
They are scattered everywhere, hiding like little pests.
How do you get all of them? So i really don’t know. It’s a difficult problem
What I do know is it definitely has killed many lives 
EBOLA!! infect ISIS with Ebola. it’s the only way to be sure.
If we send them enough virgins, maybe the incentive to die a martyr will be reduced???
But where to find virgins these days???
^I hear they can be found on unicorns
GuyOnABuffalo - I don’t think you understand the situation. Assad is the one who has been feeding ISIS while presenting it as a rival. There are some pretty informed people who believe Baathist elements are directing ISIS. Siding with Assad to fight them is directly playing into his hands, which has been his goal all along and pushes the US into a foreign civil war that doesn’t support US interests.
^ I never suggested siding with Assad if anything I was being facetious when I said to let Putin take care of the problem (assuming Putin’s solution is to back Assad) and I disagreed with Higgmond when he recommended it. And I am sure Assad’s loyalties lie with whoever the strongest backer of keeping him in power is. I like your “pretty informed people” argument. You should work for bloomberg.
The great military leaders…do they include the ones that said Iraq has WMDs and that the war would cost between 50-60 billion dollars?
I too read, listen and respect what our military leaders say. but sometimes reading a one sided, one dimensioned news or “expert analysis” is not enough…
The arab nations should get together, put soldiers on the ground with coordinated air strikes. There are plenty of other nations that have the military might, funding, and leadership to fight this rogue state.
It is already an international issue. It will get worse before it gets better. It is foolish to rule out potential options that could make a significant difference. Arab nations uniting, funding, and taking leadership to solve this issue without strong international involvement is about as likely as Mexico paying to build a wall on the border.
so we go in again. 10 years later and another 6000 american lives and +2 trillion dollars spent. then newly brainwashed people come up in arms blaming the US and Western nations for the mess, killing their religion and killing their brothers and sisters and occupying their land for 10 years (20 years in total now)…now what go back in again? Time for a Third Crusade?
Back to reality…
The West, especially the USA, has been callously messing in the Middle East for 40+ years (killing countless innocent people for oil and weapon sales). These attacks are the inevitable retribution, and are a small price to pay (very few innocent Westerners killed vs innocent Middle Easterners). But the West never has the brainpower to understand that – you stop the retribution by leaving these people alone in the first place. Order of events.
Retribution: punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.
^ You’re telling me that a bunch of Belgians and French attacking Paris, having grown up with the full benefit of the most generous of welfare states, is in retribution for what we did to them? We handed them a better life, paid for their health care, their school. They had opportunity. These aren’t oppressed rebels living under the thumb of American imperialism. They aren’t attacking France because of French conquests. They are attacking because they believe in a religion to the extent they are willing to kill to see an Islamic caliphate. ISIS is not al-Qaeda. You might have had a point then. You don’t now. This isn’t about western imperialism. At all.
This is an odd statement. So you would have been sympathetic if they hadn’t been French citizens?
What do you feel to be the difference between ISIS and Al Qaeda? I’ll answer - there is no difference, these groups are amorphous, their names are arbitrary, and they all follow the same ideology.
No, not sympathetic. The profound difference is that al-Qaeda was a stateless group of disenfranchised radicals, whereas ISIL is a near-State waging war nearly as a state around the world. Al-Qaeda’s objective was to stick its finger in the eye of the “infidels.” ISIL has the goal of expanding its population and borders. That’s a serious difference that many in the West and the western media haven’t picked up on. ISIL is much different than anything we’ve ever dealt with before, and it demands a drastically outsized response.
Outsized response gets more outsized response in return. Which is how current state came to exist.
Just leave people alone and mind your own business. But of course the West can’t do that…
Clearly you still don’t understand the difference between al-Qaeda and ISIS. Your line of reasoning may have worked with al-Qaeda, but ISIS is a pseudo-state aggressively expanding its borders. At some point it becomes a state. You can’t have a country rapidly expanding through violence with a genocidal motives unchecked. ISIS is not just a terror group, stop viewing it as such.
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Apparently you can. That’s the story of the West.
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Not since 1945, ex-Russia (which isn’t really west). You’re a modern day Chamberlain. “Who cares if ISIS only takes Syria, those people aren’t my colour. Who cares if ISIS takes Kurdistan, not my colour. Who cares if ISIS takes Lebanon or Turkey, not my colour.” At what point of ISIS’s caliphate expansion project do you start caring? When does it go too far.
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They recently murdered a chinese national.
Just a matter of time before China gets involved.
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The West stopped physically enslaving and taking territory, in favor of more elegant moves like controlling the resources without actually doing the work of owning them…see Middle East.
Still going on, different name, same game. Karma is a bitch, suck it up or get out of the game.
No, their territorial claims don’t separate them from AQ. All Islamic militant groups make territorial claims. Do you realize that Nusra, an AQ affiliate also makes territorial claims? There is no material difference between them and al Qaeda.
As for Chamberlain, it’s amusing how everything is Hitler and Chamberlain. Today you claim ISIS is like Hitler, a few months ago Iran was like Hitler, a few years before that Saddam was like Hitler…to the point where this Chamberlain analogy is meaningless. IMO, sending ground troops won’t help, and we will have a situation where the cure is worse than the disease.