No, sometimes the comment and your stand alone make you a douchebag, no matter HOW they express it, or even there is no argument at all. You can say “awww… i love puppies! I love how they look when i beat the crap out of them, so cute!” - ya, that makes you a douchebag too!
Aren’t you reinforcing my point? I didn’t say that defending bad stuff politely means no duchebaggery. I said that agreement or disagreement do not affect the douchebagness. If you agree with the puppy-beater, does that mean he is not a douchebag? Of course not.
Just expressing stuff politely does not imply a lack of douchiness. Or inverting this statement, a douchebag can definitely be polite.
When there is an argument - which is a precondition for my douchebag lemma and the related agreement irrelevance corollary - the guy who agrees with you is not necessarily a non-douche, and a guy who disagrees is not necessarily a douche, which disproves your original point.
I hope that is clear. I should write “the Big Bang Theory” episodes.
It’s hard to argue when someone keeps changing their perspective. Your example about puppy-beating started out like this:
That implies that the puppy-beater is an absolute douchebag. No relativity. Doesn’t matter who agrees or disagrees. And now you say
So now he is a douchebag only if you disagree with him?
Make up your mind. I can’t argue two opposing sides, maybe you can argue with yourself whether a puppy-beater is a douchebag depends on whether you agree with him.
My original example still stands: I say “this one Asian girl sucks”. TRH says, hypothetically, not really,“all Asian girls suck”. He is supporting me but he is still a hypothetical douchebag.
No silly, my quote about the dog beating is to illustrate the fact that it’s not about HOW you sound that makes you a douchebag, it’s what you say, so i intentionally make the quote sound like the best possible tone, just to prove your point wrong.
AND the fact that i actually disagree with dog beating, of course, that makes me think that person is a douchebag.
Whether i think that person is a douchebag is purely based on the fact i agree or disagree with his actions (or opinions), if we breathe through the same hole, i wouldn’t disagree and therefore would not find anything wrong with that person thus not make the conclusion that the person is a douchebag.
So you have never agreed with a person knowing he is a douchebag (or vice versa)? I find that very hard to believe.
Douchebags can cometimes have valid points. Example: Ayn Rand was a mega-douche, but she had a point about not encouraging moochers at the expense of prime movers. I agree with her while knowing she was a DB. Another example - many atheists in US are DBs, suing public schools already strapped for cash when the school promotes something religious, but I agree with them that church and state should be separate.
Alternately, I disagree with you but I don’t think you are a douchebag (how is that for a smooth compliment?)
Did you guys hear about that one “hypothetical” time when 1recho was lynching black people in a Ku Klux Klan uniform. He also beats women and rapes children. Hypothetically of course. He also fcked his own mother in the ass. Hypothetically.
I already said a few posts ago that a douchebag can be an angel in other situations, and I did say i judge someone on case by case basis… why do you keep bending my words??
How did I bend your words? You clearly said that if you agree with someone then you don’t think they are a douchebag. You even gave the puppy-beater example. I agree with you that a douchebag can be an angel in other situations. But my disagreement is whether you can agree with someone knowing that they are a douchebag. Previously, you stated that you cannot. That is, if you agree with them then you don’t think they are a douchebag. My counter-examples to that are Ayn Rand and some atheists (see above.) Are you saying these examples are invalid? If so, why?
Simply put, i cannot possibly disgree with someone 100% of the time, even if that person is a serial killer i may agree with his taste in music! So if i call someone a douchebag, i must be in disagreement with that person on some level, on that particular topic. That’s not to say, i can’t turn around and be friends with the same person at another occasion when he/she does not behave douchebaggy to me.
It depends on what we are talking about, i mean, if he’s not constantly reminding me that he is a serial killer and he happens to like the same music i’d probably think to myself, “hey he’s a serial killer but he’s got good taste in music, i give him that!” And serial killer is probably the MOST EXTREME scenario, in most cases, people around me are not criminals and their doucheyness is just a matter of opinion.
So… is that serial killer whom you agree with about music, a douchebag or not? It’s your example, you should be able to say Yes or No firmly. No wiggling.
He would not be a douchebag if i see him in the concert and we are dancing on the amp! But he would be if i happened to know he killed my baby sister and i see him at the concert partying it up!
Why would you call him a serial killer unless you knew that he was one? So, the answer is, if you knew he was a serial killer, and you and he looooooove the same music, and you agree with him about the music, he would still be a douchebag. So, you don’t really base your douchebag evaluation on a single criterion of whether that person agrees with you on a particular topic. That’s what I have been saying all along.
Well… if he’s a serial killer but did not kill my friends or relative… like i said this is an extreme case and it’s unlikely i would see a serial killer at a concert! if he’s a known serial killer why isn’t he in trial or jail already? This example wasn’t meant to be elaborated.