^ You already failed the IQ test, give someone else a chance. Any smarties here care to try?
It’s partly a demographics issue… Gun death rates among US Asians are probably comparable or even lower than those of Asians in Asian countries.
But yes, reducing gun ownership would very likely reduce gun deaths, since most are caused by accidents, not by murders.
This.
Raise taxes, raise welfare, reduce incentive to work, reduce gun violence. Everybody wins!
huh come again? no ghettos in canda, finland, france? ghettos as in slum area occupied by minorities with less than ideal educational attainment and not so good living standards? I am sure all countries have “ghettos.”
Most are actually suicide, approximately 60%. About 35% are homicide and the rest are accidents and police shootings. All numbers per Pew.
+1
So the sad conclusion is that the avg person is dumber than a box of rocks, and society as a whole is doomed
Pretty much, but unlike most republicans, President Obama and most democrats are smart enough to tell the lies that people want to hear.
Sorry, but I must award a fail here too.
There is a pattern in the known stats, no reason to dodge that in favor of unknown stats. Then there is reluctant agreement the pattern exists, followed by making up a stat to dodge the real pattern (not correct, way more gun deaths are murders than accidents in the US).
It’s a cultural issue, Americans believe that everything must be complicated, so that they can show off their “intelligence” and have something to argue about. But actully many patterns are simple, and many answers to seemingly complex social problems are actually very simple. One can overthink!
Anyone else? Process of elimination…
^ but you haven’t shown a pattern. you’ve picked one number from the set, the highest, and said that because this number is associated with the other highest number, the two numbers are causal. there is more to the question than these two numbers.
You already failed Matt, there were an assortment of developed world countries. Do you guys want me to give you the answer? Give up?
these countries, well i can speak for canada at least, don’t have anything like the ghettos that exist in the U.S. to the point that they shouldn’t be called ghettos. outside of Toronto and Vancouver, we have no cities with noticable areas that one might call ghettos and even in these cities, the areas have large populations of low income whites and are heterogenous culturally/racially. for this reason, we don’t have the same gang culture that exists in many U.S. cities. how are the chinese, indians, black and white guys going to get together to shoot people when they don’t speak the same language?
don’t ignore this because it’s difficult. pray tell me the difference between Canada, Finland and France?
i am fully and completely anti-gun so don’t take my objective analysis as biased because i share a continent with our American friends.
interesting. sounds like a self-correcting problem to me.
Answer : the pattern is that increased counts of finely crafted weapons of great killing power in a population of monkeys increases the violent death rate (all forms; murder, suicide, and accidental).
And one can also think about the area of effect of the weapon, since by decreasing count of guns we are downgrading the monkeys weaponary (they always have something they can use)…
* One nuke per capita, a monkey loses control, a city of 100K murdered, highest death rate.
* One gun per capita, a monkey loses control, a crowed of 20 murdered, lower death rate.
* One knife per capita, a monkey loses control, maybe 1 or 0 murdered, too much work and defender has a chance, lowest death rate.
Monkeys are emotional and stupid, this can never be changed, and so the more finely crafted killing tools around, the more they will use those tools. But they are also lazy and incompetent, so anything that requires them to build a killing tool or actually get their hands bloody decreases the death rate (including suicide). Directly decreasing the count of finely crafted killing tools get the job done, as seen in the stats.
Not hard, like a 90 IQ type question basically. Overthinking gets people every time on this one.
I would add to Alpha’s comment on gun.
One handgun and one nutjob and maybe 5 people murdered. given 12 -16 rounds in a magazine and smaller caliber and power.
but with AR15s with NATO 5.56 rounds in a magazine of 30 rounds…well the nutjob can miss the target 30 ft in front of him/her the bullet will travel with minimum loss of height for another 300 meters. and with the size of the caliber…well any body shot is life threatening. Don’t worry the nutjob has 29 more…30 if he had 1 in the chamber along with 30 in the mag.
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The Facts That Neither Side Wants To Admit About Gun Control By Justin King | October 5, 2015 Share this article! (TFC) Washington, DC – A church was shot up by a lunatic. The US government never lets a tragedy or crisis pass without attempting to find a new way to restrict the American people. So, we can expect a renewed push for gun control. There is a lot of propaganda about gun control. So much so that the truth has been lost. The National Rifle Association (NRA) would have you believe that guns stop murders. The gun control lobby would have you believe that gun control reduces murders. They are both wrong. Gun bans have always had the same effect once implemented: none. They do not create a (sustained) period of increased murders, nor do they reduce the rate of homicides. The gun control crowd is currently stomping their feet and screaming “No, it reduces violence! I’ve seen the statistics.” What you probably saw were studies that point to reduced instances of “gun murders,” not murder. The pro-gun crowd is screaming that gun bans cause crime. At least this is grounded in reality. Typically, there is a spike in murders immediately after a ban, but it is short lived. Gun control is designed to stop people from killing each other, at least that’s what we are always told. Let’s take a look at the data: United Kingdom: The UK enacted its handgun ban in 1996. From 1990 until the ban was enacted, the homicide rate fluctuated between 10.9 and 13 homicides per million. After the ban was enacted, homicides trended up until they reached a peak of 18.0 in 2003. Since 2003, which incidentally was about the time the British government flooded the country with 20,000 more cops, the homicide rate has fallen to 11.1 in 2010. In other words, the 15-year experiment in a handgun ban has achieved absolutely nothing. Ireland: Ireland banned firearms in 1972. Ireland’s homicide rate was fairly static going all the way back to 1945. In that period, it fluctuated between 0.1 and 0.6 per 100,000 people. Immediately after the ban, the murder rate shot up to 1.6 per 100,000 people in 1975. It then dropped back down to 0.4. It has trended up, reaching 1.4 in 2007. Australia: Australia enacted its gun ban in 1996. Murders have basically run flat, seeing only a small spike after the ban and then returning almost immediately to preban numbers. It is currently trending down, but is within the fluctuations exhibited in other nations. Plain and simple. Gun control has no significant impact on murder rates. Removing firearms does not typically create massive lawlessness. It is a moot point. These figures aren’t a secret. Why would the governments of these nations want a disarmed populace? For the answer, it is best to look at a nation that has had long-time gun bans that is currently relaxing their laws. Russia recently relaxed its firearms laws. For the first time in recent memory, a Russian citizen can carry a firearm. The prohibited items speak volumes about what a government’s motive behind disarming the population is. Russia has allowed “smoothbore long barrelled guns, pistols, revolvers, and other firearms, as well as Tasers, and devices equipped with teargas.” That’s almost everything, what is still banned? Rifles. So the Russian government has made it clear that the real objective is to remove rifles from civilian hands. The reasoning is pretty clear: you need rifles to overthrow a government. The Real Reason Gun Control Will Never Work: Poverty has a greater correlation to violent crime than access to firearms. Education and poverty are directly linked. In short, we don’t have a gun problem in the United States, we have a cultural problem.Home Depot. Most people in the gun control lobby know nothing about firearms or their construction. Everything you need to manufacture firearms is available at Home Depot. The materials needed to manufacture a 12 gauge shotgun cost about $20. If someone wanted to build a fully automatic Mac-10 style submachine gun, it would probably cost about $60. Every electrician, plumber, and handyman in the country has the materials necessary to manufacture firearms in their shop. The items are completely unregulated. They aren’t like the chemicals necessary to manufacture methamphetamines. How is the battle against that black market working out? We have a society that panders to the basest desires and instincts. One of those is violence. We live in a society where women are given dirty looks for breastfeeding in a restaurant, while over their heads on the wall-mounted television plays a movie that graphically depicts someone being tortured to death. We are desensitized to violence, and we have a generation of people that do not have the coping skills necessary to deal with reality. Firearms are the Pandora’s Box of the United States. The box is open, it can’t be closed through legislation. If you want to change society, you have to actually change the whole of society. You can’t blame an inanimate object that’s availability has absolutely no correlation to murder and expect to end violence.
wow kinda r@cist
And since murder is correlated to gun ownership, how much higher is the US murder rate than the second most dangerous country? Pretty comical that the murder rate of the US is even discussed without demographic and geographical qualifiers. Parts of the US are the safest in the World. And some parts can rival the most dangerous. And when you consider the gun ownership in these areas, the gun ownership numbers are inversly correlated to danger. Go figure.
mm hmmm
also also uh uh the Earth is in the center of the solar system. our solar system is in the center of the universe.
You all fail:
Assault weapons contribute less than 3% of US firearm murders and less than 1% of total firearm deaths.
Interesting side note: Single black males form 50% of gun murder victims but 6% of the total population.