So…apparently this thread actually exists and many of you have no problem being openly misogynstic.
It seems like everyone in this world is either a misogynst or a militant feminist, both of which are extremes I can’t stand. Good on you, Greenman, for finding a woman who’s totally ok with you calling her an idiot to a bunch of strangers.
No, there are some out there who are just idiots.
He didn’t. One day he just disappeared in a puff of maple syrup.
frankarabia wasn’t banned as far as I know.
But he has a sad and disturbing obsession with kim kardashion
I used to be a misogynist. But one day I listened to a moving poem set to music by a lovely heavyset woman talking about her “bass”. Turns out that every inch of fat chicks is perfect from the bottom to the top.
Now I’m a chubby chaser and I can’t wait to get home to my wife!
LOL
haha this is golden!
In fairness to Greenie, what his wife did was both idiotic and emasculating. We can debate if someone should be publicly called out on something like that, but in the event they are, isn’t it better done in an anonymous forum where very few people know who he is and even fewer know her than at a dinner party with her closest friends? If my wife feels the need to vent about some of the stupid stuff I do, I’d much rather she does it on some anonymous forum than to folks who actually know who I am.
Not everyone is a mysogynist or a militant feminist. They just tend to speak the loudest and thus get the most airtime.
I wish there wasn’t as much outright objectification of women here and so many suggestions that their only value comes as a result of how physically attractive and obedient they are. One could try deleting such things, but they pop up like weeds with such rapidity, and the moderators have day jobs, plus every deletion forces a moderator to figure out where the line between propriety and censorship lies, and why one should censor one thing but not another. For people doing this job for free, it’s a pretty large and frequent mental demand, particularly since spending too much time on here could get one dismissed by a supervisor at one’s paid job.
My approach is to try to show that there’s a middle ground. We men have our thoughts and desires and it doesn’t always help a lot to keep them fully repressed, but at the same time, women’s experiences and desires are also valid and real. Men and women experience the world differently and sometimes the challenge is really to see how the other side thinks. So if it gets too mysogynistic, I’ll usually push back in some way, but I don’t take that to mean I must delete posts, or can’t muse about how I’d like the world to be if I could simply sit back and think only about what it is that I want.
In practice, I do this by trying to make a clear distinction in my own comments about “What I like” in women from comments about “What women should be like.” Women are under no obligation to be what I like, and I can have respect for women for a variety of reasons other than their physical attractiveness. It’s good for women to have control and autonomy over how they run their lives, though I think many feminist women have an inaccurate view of what it is like to experience life as a man (though in finance, the BSD stereotype is perhaps closer to reality than in other fields, particularly the negative aspects of that stereotype - as shown by comments here)
I also feel that on an anonymous forum, perhaps its better to know straight up who the mysogynists or militant feminists are and leave it at that. Ultimately it’s just text on a screen. As long as there’s enough variety of viewpoints so that people dont’ think this is the only possible way to think about these topics, then there is capacity for improvement.
Finally, finance - even more than other fields - is full of people who are self centered asshats. I’ts helpful as a reminder, because in real life, those guys tend to stab you in the back while smiling at your face. Something to remember this by is useful.
I agree with this 100%. Very few people on here even know who I am, much less know my wife.
I didn’t even see it as misogynistic. If I had a male roommate who had done that, I probably would have posted it as well. But the fact that it just seemed to fit in with a couple of other “women” posts made it too easy to resist.
Perfectly said.
I suppose I shouldn’t put so much emphasis on what people on the internet are saying about women. It’s just frustrating that 9 years after finishing high school, I’m still forced to associate with people who discuss the best ways to trick women into laying you, or how women are incompetent and/or useless without men (but it’s ok, because they’re “just joking”). Even my most womanizing, misogynistic high school friends have grown up and sought out women that they respect.
Every once in a while when my wife’s teenaged brothers come by, I remember how everything in a teen boy’s world is a competition - getting the most ass, being the fastest, strongest, best at video games, blah blah blah. What an exhausting and stupid world. I realize the world of finance is competitive, but I sincerely hope it’s not one where comments like we’ve seen in this thread are common in the workplace.
^ You should visit a trading floor. This thread is tame.
Now, now. No need to be such a misandrist.
I’m blinded by this white knight in his shining armor.
Serious question, how does one come out of that perpetual state of competition? I was actually thinking about that today as i thought about my recent dates and how they could go out with any guy but picked me. From this thought, it motivated to be the strongest, fastest, richest man.
^ Self confidence/actualisation.
It is generally understood that internet comments are exaggerated. I don’t expect that Greenman will go home and berate his wife, or even make these sort of comments in person to people he knows (the same for me). Sentiments that range from 3 to 8 on a 1-10 scale are not worthy of being posted here, because such comments would be boring and convey no meaningful information.
Take these three examples:
I ate at this new diner, and it was the best experience of my life. I must post this here because everyone must know how great this place is. My life goal is now complete, other than meeting Blake in person and gently caressing his face.
I ate at this new diner, and it was horrible. Not only did I vomit and feel nauseous, but when I got home, my ass exploded like in Power of Oneness. My gf was so horrified that she left me and took the dog.
I ate at this new diner, and it was average. The diner had no measurable advantages or disadvantages.
One of these three comments would not be posted. Thus, what remains on the internet is the extremes.
^ I love diner food. What’s it called?
Why are you forced to associate with them? Are you in prison?